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category international | anti-war / imperialism | opinion/analysis author Friday July 18, 2014 14:03author by T Report this post to the editors

Did Putin's presidential jet fly same route about 30 minutes earlier?

Yesterday afternoon tragically 295 people lost their lives. What we do know is that if the Kiev fascist regime had any sort of tenuous proof that the separatists had shot it down the Western media would be screaming bloody murder. Instead they are quite coy and initially qualified it with the word accident. And accident of sorts it may well have been because it looks like this may have been more than yet another provocation by US/NATO via their neo-Nazi puppets in Kiev to widen the conflict but in fact may have been a direct attempt to assassinate president Putin because it has been reported his presidential plane flew over the same region approximately 30 minutes earlier. More on this later. But first some details on the lead up to this.

The plane was flying at 10,000 metres (33,000 ft) which is very high and could only have been shot down by a missile and not reachable by a shoulder launched type of heat seeking missile. It came down in Ukraine 60 km from the Russia border.

The ITAR-Tass news agency reported that:
A competent source cited objective control data as indicating that the Ukrainian army’s (i.e. the Kiev Nazis) Buk air defense battalion had been moved to the Donetsk area on Wednesday, July 16. Another such battalion is getting ready for redeployment in Kharkov.

The source said aircraft flying at altitudes higher than 10,000 meters could be reached only by weapons like S-300 or
Buk systems. The militia does not have and cannot have such weapons, the source said.

And From RT: The Donetsk People's Republic PM Aleksandr Boroday has called the incident a "provocation by the Ukrainian military".

"We confirm that the plane crashed not far from Donetsk," Boroday said. "Representatives of Donetsk People's Republic have headed to the scene of the plane search."

"Self-defense forces have no air-defense, which could target transport aircraft at that height," he told Interfax.

"We have only MANPADs (portable anti-aircraft missile complex) which hit targets at 3-4 kilometers," Sergey Kavtaradze, representative for Donetsk People’s Republic PM, also told journalists.

It is reported that the black box recorders have been found by the local anti-Kiev militia and intend to hand them over to Russia authorities as they don't trust the Kiev regime to properly investigate the incident.

The context to the conflict so far is that the Kiev neo-Nazi forces have been suffering badly in their clashes over the past few months with the separatists because much of the real Ukrainian army melted away as there are not many people in Ukraine who actually want to fight for these thugs who are in power so that the country can be stripped clean by the IMF and Western capital as very severe austerity is in the works.

The Kiev regime has already imposed widespread repression, had banned the Russia language, attacked and killed civilians in the Eastern cities with bombings, airstrikes and shootings and murdered protestors in Odessa back in May by locking them into House of Trade Unions building and burning the building down. Those who tried to escape were beaten to death. The regime is very outwardly neo Nazi and racist and are one of the most regressive groups to seize power in a long time. And all losing sides need an injection in the arm. In the case of Syria we have seen time and time again the foreign Jihadists fighters who have run a bombing and murder campaign for several years now in Syria and financed and backed by Saudi, Qatar and USA/UK intelligence with considerable Turkish support, have been pushed back and defeated many times and there have been multiple provocations to escale the conflict to the point where the use of 'humanitarian' bombing can be justified. The extremism went as far as Middle Eastern and Western backed terrorists carrying out a chemical weapons attack and then trying but failing to pin it on the Assad regime. The situation in Ukraine is in many respects very similar.

However returning to the possibility raised earlier, perhaps the key to this tragic affair hinges on whether Putin's plane flew the same route shortly before the attack because he was returning from Brazil (where the creation of a BRICS development bank with $50 billion capital was setup and is designed as an alternative to the IMF for BRICS countries). To give some credence to this, the dimensions and colourings of the Russian presidential plane and the Malaysian plane were very alike as seen in the image below and if his was the intended target then it would put the whole incident in a completely different and far more dangerous sphere and plugs directly into the financial war taking place where the US dollar is struggling to retain its status as global reserve currency, manipulation of the gold market and the recent announcement of a huge $800 billion deal between Russia and China for trade in energy which would use their own currencies and NOT use the dollar. Currently all international trade, including oil is done in dollars creating a huge artificial demand for the currency of a country that no longer produces much except military hardware and propaganda out of Hollywood. Official Russian government reports deny that he flew over the conflict region but it is difficult to ascertain whether this is true or not and they are covering up the embarrassment and security lapse of such a near miss.

Quoting from RT
Malaysian Airlines MH17 plane was travelling almost the same route as Russia’s President Vladimir Putin’s jet shortly before the crash that killed 295, Interfax news agency reports citing sources.

"I can say that Putin’s plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon. That was close to Warsaw on 330-m echelon at the height of 10,100 meters. The presidential jet was there at 16:21 Moscow time and the Malaysian aircraft - 15:44 Moscow time," a source told the news agency on condition of anonymity.

"The contours of the aircrafts are similar, linear dimensions are also very similar, as for the coloring, at a quite remote distance they are almost identical", the source added.

Another compelling fact of this case is this is the second Malaysian airline to reach a tragic end. Flight MH370 disappeared over the Indian Ocean in March and it is widely believed it was some sort of hijack. It had completely changed course. Despite all of the coverage around the incident, there was little mention of the massive US military airbase on the island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean which is within 500 miles of where it allegedly went down. Given the massive ramp up and spending on the Cyber attack capabilities of the US in recent years which has rapidly developed, hijack may have been a form of cyber hijack in which control of the plane was taken over and it is unclear what happened after that but certainly in the development of such these new offensive capabilities one can conclude that a real life test of these systems is bound to ocur and there was no better candidate for Washington than Malaysia because their outright refusal to follow the Washington consensus. In the late 1990s during the Asian crisis Malaysia threw out the IMF and Washington has forgotten that disobedience. Beside cosying up to China in recent years and thereby breaking ranks with the US-Anglo global dominance has also displeased the US. After all in light of the Snowden leaks about the NSA in the past year or so, the level, capabilities and extent of spying and disruption carried out by the intelligence agencies is far beyond what even most people and activists could conceive of a few short years ago. And the pervasiveness is staggering. Combine this with the technology and capabilities demonstrated by drones and the utter contempt for human life where already thousands of people, mainly in Afghanistan and Pakistan have been killed in these drone attacks, it is not very hard to imagine that the lives of civilians of the 'disobedient' nation of Malaysia don't count for much either.

Therefore whatever happened to MH370 in March, it seems rather odd and coincidental that another Malaysian airliner is hit. If this was a random missile that went wrong or was intended for another plane, it still seems odd that it was a Malaysian plane. A more logical explanation is that the attack was some kind of pretext to cause worldwide outrage and blame it on the separatists & Russia and in this way turn public opinion against Russia and justify new attacks and broadening of the conflict. The game plan afterall in installing the neo Nazi puppets in Ukraine was to plunder the country and bring in NATO and provoking civil war along the Russia border which is exactly what is happening. The next stage of the plan is to push these disturbances further East making use of the many different ethnic groups inside Russia to bring chaos and a series of rolling Color Revolutions and hopefully to the breakup of Russia thereby removing one of only two powers that can pose any serious challenge to Washington. With Yeltsin they nearly succeeded in destroying the country.

Where things went wrong for the attackers and their handlers is that the plane was not full of Malaysians and instead there were 154 Dutch people on board. The European countries have so far allowed themselves and some willingly, to be bullied by the US into publicaly supporting the neo Nazis in Kiev and imposing sanctions on Russia but now that so many Dutch have been killed it may not be so easy to turn this into a stick to bash the separatists and Russians and there will be many high up in Dutch government, military and intelligence circles who know exactly what the bigger game is and will not be so enthusiastic to go along with it anymore.

Already in the press the Western media have utilised social media to plant stories of tapped telephone calls from the leader of the separatists claiming that had shot down the plane. Such false stories have to be put into the context of what makes sense, is logical and the wider agenda. On the other hand reproduce here is a set of tweets from a Spanish air traffic controller working in Kiev who strongly suggests this was carried out by Ukraine.


Spanish Air Controller @ Kiev Borispol Airport: Ukraine Military Shot Down Boeing #MH17
Eyewitness Accounts July 18, 2014 Comments: 11

Translated from Spanish by Luis Lopez
Source: Tweets by Spanish Air Controller - @spainbuca


10:21 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Autoridades de kiev, intentan hacer que pueda parecer un ataque de los pro-rusos

“Kiev Authorities, trying to make looks like an attack by pro-Russian”

10:24 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Ojo! Que puede ser un derribo B777 Malaysia Airlines en ukraine, 280 pasajeros

“warning! It can be a downing, Malaysia Airlines B777 in ukraine, 280 passengers”

10:25 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Cuidado! Kiev tiene lo que buscaba

“Warning! Kiev have what they wanted”

10:25 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Vuelven a tomar la torre de control en Kiev

“[Miitary] has taken control of ATC in Kiev”

10:27 - 17 de jul. de 2014 El avión B777 de Malaysia Airlines desapareció del radar, no hubo comunicación de ninguna anomalia, confirmado

“The Malaysia Airlines B777 plane disappeared from the radar, there was no communication of any anomaly, confirmed”

10:30 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Avión derribado, derribados, derribado no accidente

“Plane shot down, shot down, shot down, no accident”

10:31 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Kiev, tiene lo que buscaba, lo dije en los primeros tw, kiev es responsable @ActualidadRT

“Kiev have what they wanted, I said in the first tw [Tweets], Kiev is responsible @ ActualidadRT”

10:35 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Un accidente muy normal no es, no están amenazando en la misma torre del aeropuerto de kiev,

“An accident that is not quite normal, they are threatening us in the same tower of Kiev airport”

10:35 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Nos van a quitar, nuestros tlf y demás de un momento a otro

“they will take from our phones and others stuff at any moment”

10:38 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Antes de que me quiten el tlf o me rompan la cabeza, derribado por Kiev

“Before They remove my phone or they break my head, shot down by Kiev”

11:12 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Nosotros tenemos la confirmación. Avión derribado, la autoridad de kiev, ya tiene la información, derribado, estamos tranquilos ahora

“We have confirmation. Plane downed, Kiev authorities already have the information, downed, we are calm now”

11:13 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Que hace personal extranjero con autoridades de kiev en la torre? Recopilando toda la información

“What are doing foreigners with kiev authorities in the tower? Gathering all the information”

11:15 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Cuando sea posible sigo escribiendo

“When possible I´ll keep writing”

11:48 - 17 de jul. de 2014 El avión B 777 voló escoltado por 2 cazas de ukraine hasta minutos antes, de desaparecer de los radares,

The B777 plane flew escorted by Ukraine jet fighter until 2 minutes before disappearing from the radar,

11:54 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Sí las autoridades de kiev, quieren decir la verdad, esta recogido 2 cazas volaron muy cerca minutos antes , no lo derribo un caza

“If kiev authorities want to tell the truth, It´s gathered, 2 jet fighters flew very close minutes before, wasn’t downed by a fighter”

12:00 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Nada más desaparecer el avión B 777 de Malaysia Airlines la autoridad militar de kiev nos informo del derribo, como lo sabían?

“Malaysia Airlines B777 plane just disappeared and Kiev military authority informed us of the downing, How they knew?”

12:00 - 17 de jul. de 2014 A los 7:00 minutos se notificó el derribo, más tarde se tomó la torre nuestra con personal extranjero q siguen aquí

“7:00 minutes after [plane dissapeared], the downing was notified, later our tower was taken with foreigner staff, they still here ”

12:01 - 17 de jul. de 2014 En los radares esta todo recogido, para los incrédulos, derribado por kiev, aquí lo sabemos y control aéreo militar también

“all this is gathered in radars, to the unbelieving, shot down by kiev, here we know it and military air traffic control also”

13:15 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Aquí los mandos militares manejan y admiten que militares a otras órdenes, pudieron ser, pero no, los pro-rusos

“Here the military commanders manage and support it could be military following other orders , but no, the pro-Russian”

13:29 - 17 de jul. de 2014 El ministro del interior si conocía que, hacían los cazas en la zona, el ministro de defensa no, .

“Interior Minister knew what the fighters were doing in the area, the defense minister didn’t.”

13:31 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Militares confirman que fue ukraine, pero se sigue sin saber de donde vino la orden

“Military confirm It was Ukraine, but still does not know where the order came from”

13:36 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Hace dias lo dije aquí, militares de kiev querían alzarse contra el actual presidente, esto puede ser una forma, a las órdenes de timoshenko

“Days ago I said here, kiev military wanted to rise against the current president, this may be a way, ordered by timoshenko [following timishenko orders]”

13:38 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Los cazas volaron cerca del 777, hasta 3 minutos antes de desaparecer de los radares, solo 3 minutos

“The fighters flew close to 777, up to 3 minutes before disappearing from the radar, just 3 minutes”

13:43 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Se cierra el espacio aéreo

“Airspace closed”

13:45 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Se cierra el espacio aéreo, por miedo a más derribos

“Airspace is closed, more downings feared”

15:17 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Control militar entrega ahora mismo de forma oficial que el avión fue derribado por misil

“military control now officially [say] the plane was shot down by missile”

15:23 - 17 de jul. de 2014 El informe oficial firmado por las autoridades militares de control de kiev ya lo tiene el gobierno,,,, , derribado

“Government has the official report signed by the control military authorities in Kiev,,,, [plane] shot down”

15:26 - 17 de jul. de 2014 En el informe se indica de donde abría salido el misil, y se especifica que no proviene de las autodefensa en las zonas rebeldes

“The report indicates where the missile had come out [from], and specified is not from the selfdefence in rebel areas”

15:34 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Los radares militares si recogieron los datos del misil lanzado al avión, los radares civiles no

“Military radar collected data from missile fired to the plane, civilian radars didn’t”

15:36 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Los altos mandos militares no ordenaron el lanzamiento del misil, ,,alguien se le fue la mano en nombre de ukraine

“military high command did not gave the order to fire the missile, someone screw it ine the name of ukraine”

15:38 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Para el que no lo sepa, digamos así, hay militares a las órdenes del ministro de defensa y militares a las órdenes del ministro del interior

“For those who do not know, Let’s say, there are military under the orders of the defense minister and military under the orders of Interior Minister”

15:38 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Los militares a las órdenes del ministro del interior conocían en cada momento lo que sucedió, .

“The military under the orders of Interior Minister knew what happened all the time .”

16:06 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Mandos militares aquí (ATC) torre de control, confirman que el misil es del ejercito de ukraine,

“Military commanders here (ATC) control tower, confirm that the missile is from the ukranian army,”

16:07 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Mandos militares que si lo sabían y otros mandos que no,

“military commanders that knew it and others didn´t ,”

16:08 - 17 de jul. de 2014 290 personas inocentes muertas, . Por una guerra inútil, donde el patriotismo se compra con dinero

“290 dead innocent people. What a useless war, where patriotism is bought with money”

16:09 - 17 de jul. de 2014 La forma de tomar la torre de control minutos después sabiendo todo los detalles, rápido nos hizo pensar que habían sido ellos

“Thw way the control tower was taken minutes after & knowing all the details, made ??us think that they [made it]”

16:10 - 17 de jul. de 2014 La cara de los militares que llegaron más tarde diciendo pero que habéis echo, no dejo dudas

“The face of the soldiers who came later saying [what you just did], no chance for doubts”

16:12 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Es tal la decadencia que los militares acompañados de extranjeros que llegaron primero nos llegaron a pedir que dijéramos su versión

“Such is the decline that military who came first accompanied by foreigners came to us asking us to tell their version”

16:13 - 17 de jul. de 2014 Nuestra respuesta, fue, estos radares no recogen el lanzamiento de misiles, los militares si, ya no quedaban dudas

“Our response was, these radars do not collect the launching of missiles, the military ones does, there were no doubts”

author by curiouspublication date Sat Jul 19, 2014 02:07author address author phone Report this post to the editors


1. Immediately after the tragedy, the Ukrainian authorities, naturally, blamed it on the self-defense forces. What are these accusations based on?

2. Can Kiev explain in detail how it uses Buk missile launchers in the conflict zone? And why were these systems deployed there in the first place, seeing as the self-defense forces don’t have any planes?

3. Why are the Ukrainian authorities not doing anything to set up an international commission? When will such a commission begin its work?

4. Would the Ukrainian Armed Forces be willing to let international investigators see the inventory of their air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles, including those used in SAM launchers?

5. Will the international commission have access to tracking data from reliable sources regarding the movements of Ukrainian warplanes on the day of the tragedy?

6. Why did Ukrainian air traffic controllers allow the plane to deviate from the regular route to the north, towards “the anti-terrorist operation zone”?

7. Why was airspace over the warzone not closed for civilian flights, especially since the area was not entirely covered by radar navigation systems?

8. How can official Kiev comment on reports in the social media, allegedly by a Spanish air traffic controller who works in Ukraine, that there were two Ukrainian military planes flying alongside the Boeing 777 over Ukrainian territory?

9. Why did Ukraine’s Security Service start working with the recordings of communications between Ukrainian air traffic controllers and the Boeing crew and with the data storage systems from Ukrainian radars without waiting for international investigators?

10. What lessons has Ukraine learned from a similar incident in 2001, when a Russian Tu-154 crashed into the Black Sea? Back then, the Ukrainian authorities denied any involvement on the part of Ukraine’s Armed Forces until irrefutable evidence proved official Kiev to be guilty.

author by fredpublication date Sun Jul 20, 2014 07:35author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Tony Cartalucci would seem to agree with much of this analysis:

Some of the propaganda being pumped out relentlessly by the MSM rags is unbelievable:

Putin is not a moron and would not shoot himself in both feet this way.
Clearly those with most to gain from this were the US and it's poodles.

And it's not as if the US haven't shot down an airliner full of people before:

Or supported a terrorist who bombed a Cuban airliner full of people:
CIA-trained 'terrorist' in US court Accused of killing 73 in an airline bombing, Luis Posada Carriles charged with immigration violations, not terrorism.

author by KMpublication date Sun Jul 20, 2014 22:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

What Happened to the Malaysian Airliner?

Paul Craig Roberts

Washington’s propaganda machine is in such high gear that we are in danger of losing
the facts that we do have.

One fact is that the separatists do not have the expensive Buk anti-aircraft missile system or the trained personnel to operate it.

Another fact is that the separatists have no incentive to shoot down an airliner and neither does Russia. Anyone can tell the difference between low-flying attack aircraft and an airliner at 33,000 feet.

The Ukrainians do have Buk anti-aircraft missile systems, and a Buk battery was operational in the region and deployed at a site from which it could have fired a missile at the airliner.

Just as the separatists and the Russian government have no incentive to shoot down an airliner, neither does the Ukrainian government nor, one would think, even the crazed extreme Ukrainian nationalists who have formed militias to take the fight against the separatists that the Ukrainian army is not keen to undertake–unless there was a plan to frame Russia.

One Russian general familiar with the weapon system offered his opinion that it was a mistake made by the Ukrainian military untrained in the weapon’s use. The general said that although Ukraine has a few of the weapons, Ukrainians have had no training in their use in the 23 years since Ukraine separated from Russia. The general thinks it was an accident due to incompetence.

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As expected now that many of the US/NATO false flag attacks like the chemical attack last year in Syria quickly fall apart because the motives are so obvious they are now responding to this and getting a bit more sophisticated and are manufacturing evidence. In the last few days the Western media have been touting so called tapes of conversations that allegedly prove the rebels downed the aircraft.

ITAR/TASS reports now a group of experts studied the tape and came to the conclusion that it was made up of numerous unrelated recordings. A tape posted by Ukrainian security services in the Internet and allegedly recording a talk between self-defense fighters about the destruction of a Malaysian airliner is a fake, experts said on Sunday.

A group of experts studied the tape and came to the conclusion that it was made up of numerous unrelated recordings.

“This audio recording is not an integral file and is made up of several fragments,” said Nikolai Popov, a reputable expert in sound and voice analysis. Specifically, the first of the three audio fragments, in which Gorlovka self-defense militia commander Igor Bezler talks about a plane shot down by the fighters, does not say anything about the type of the plane, the expert said.

At the same time, the name of the town of Yenakiyevo is clearly heard in the tape. However, the town is located about 100 km (60 miles) from the settlement of Snezhnoye where the Malaysian Boeing-777 airliner crashed.....

....The tape’s second fragment consists of three pieces but was presented as a single audio recording. However, a spectral and time analysis has showed that the dialog was cut into pieces and then assembled. Short pauses in the tape are very indicative: the audio file has preserved time marks which show that the dialog was assembled from various episodes, the expert said.

The tape’s linguistic analysis also shows that those who made the faked tape clearly didn’t have enough material and time, the expert said.

That is why, speech fragments can hardly correlate with each other in terms of their sense and the spectral picture of audio materials also differs, the expert said.

But the most indicative moment is that the audio tape clearly shows that it was created almost a day before the airliner crash, the expert said.

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author by fredpublication date Mon Jul 21, 2014 04:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Irish columnist, Finian Cunningham has a good article on Press TV website:

author by fredpublication date Wed Jul 23, 2014 04:31author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Some interesting evidence has come to light from russia. Facts as opposed to russophobic character assassinations of putin from every corrupt western media orifice masquerading as a news outlet pretending to do real journalism.

There is a presentation video by a Russian official, showing some of their actual intelligence on the event. Needless to say these actual facts are being ignored by most of the western media in favour of continued innuendo and blatant lies with no facts to back them up as they bay for more sanctions.

The UK has even used this opportunity to open an investigation into the death of Litvenenko.
I suggest while you are at it, you also open an investigation into the death of David Kelly Cameron you utter hypocrite

It's quite clear that nobody in the west wants to get to the real truth here, merely use this tragic event cynically to further their geopolitical plans to undermine Russia further. The whole campaign against Russia in the media is racist in the extreme in it's references to those "unpeople" residing in Donetsk, as they completely ignore the murderous activities of the right wing Svoboda and right sector military as they shell the houses of impoverished civilians.

In spite of all their shrieking and wailing outrage at the previous government police even just standing up to the nazi right sector US paid thugs in Maidan before the coup, now it seems burning people alive as in Odessa and shelling innocent civilians is just peachy and just not even worth reporting on. Because these are "unpeople".

Total racism. People should wake up and recognise this behaviour in western media and government statements for what it is.

We are thoroughly steeped in a media bath of western propaganda here, both regarding events in Ukraine and in Gaza. Tread carefully.

author by fredpublication date Wed Jul 23, 2014 09:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Mike whitney has some interesting analysis:

Now the politicians and the media are at it again; trying to whip up war fever to get the public on board for another bloody intervention. Only this time, the target audience is not really the American people as much as it is Europeans. The real objective here, is to build support for additional economic sanctions as well as a deployment of NATO troops to Russia’s western border. Washington want to sabotage further economic integration between the EU and Russia so that it can control the flow of vital resources to the EU, crash the Russian economy, and establish a tollbooth between the continents. It’s all part of Washington’s “pivot” strategy that is critical to maintaining global hegemony throughout the 21st century.

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Can you see what’s going on? Washington doesn’t care about the facts. What matters to Obama and Co. is getting the Europeans on board (“ratcheting up pressure within Europe”) so they can gin up the sanctions, shut off Russian gas, deprive Putin of a vital source of revenue, and set up shop (NATO bases) in Eurasia.” Whether US Intel agencies were involved in the missile attack or not doesn’t change the fact that Washington clearly benefits from the tragedy.

Keep in mind, that the reason Putin hasn’t deployed Russian troops to stop the violence in east Ukraine is because the EU is his biggest trading partner and he doesn’t want to do anything that will put the kibosh on their business dealings. Russia needs Europe just like Europe needs Russia. They’re a perfect fit, which is why Washington has concocted this goofy plan to throw a wrench in the works. It’s because Washington wants to be the Kingfish in Eurasia and control the continents’ resources as well as the growth of regional economies. To achieve that objective, they need to convince EU leaders and people that Putin is a reckless aggressor who can’t be trusted. That’s why Kiev has launched one provocation after another since the legitimate Ukrainian government (Viktor Yanukovych) was ousted in late February and replaced with by a US-backed junta government. Most of the provocations have gone unreported in the western media, although they have regularly involved violations of international law and crimes against humanity, like the use of incendiary “phosphorous” ordnance on June, 12 in Slavyansk, or the bombing of a kindergarten in Slavyansk or the deliberate bombing of hospitals in east Ukraine, or the killing of journalists or the firing of mortar rounds across the border into Russia or the massacre at Odessa where 42 people were burned to death in a fire at the Trade Unions Building that was started by pro-junta hooligans and neo Nazis. None of these were reported in the western media where the coverage is tailored to advance the corporate-state agenda.

Paul craig roberts offers some further analysis here:

The Russian government continues to release facts, including satellite photos showing the presence of Ukrainian Buk anti-aircraft missiles in locations from which the airliner could have been brought down by the missile system and documentation that a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet rapidly approached the Malaysian airliner prior to its downing. The head of the Operations Directorate of Russian military headquarters said at a Moscow press conference today (July 21) that the presence of the Ukrainian military jet is confirmed by the Rostov monitoring center.

The Russian Defense Ministry pointed out that at the moment of destruction of MH-17 an American satellite was flying over the area. The Russian government urges Washington to make available the photos and data captured by the satellite.

President Putin has repeatedly stressed that the investigation of MH-17 requires “a fully representative group of experts to be working at the site under the guidance of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).” Putin’s call for an independent expert examination by ICAO does not sound like a person with anything to hide.

Turning to Washington Putin stated: “In the meantime, no one [not even the “exceptional nation”] has the right to use this tragedy to achieve their narrowly selfish political goals.”

Putin reminded Washington: “We repeatedly called upon all conflicting sides to stop the bloodshed immediately and to sit down at the negotiating table. I can say with confidence that if military operations were not resumed [by Kiev] on June 28 in eastern Ukraine, this tragedy wouldn’t have happened.”

What is the American response?

Lies and insinuations.

Yesterday (July 20) the US Secretary of State, John Kerry confirmed that pro-Russian separatists were involved in the downing of the Malaysian airliner and said that it was “pretty clear” that Russia was involved. Here are Kerry’s words: “It’s pretty clear that this is a system that was transferred from Russia into the hands of separatists. We know with confidence, with confidence, that the Ukrainians did not have such a system anywhere near the vicinity at that point and time, so it obviously points a very clear finger at the separatists.”

Kerry’s statement is just another of the endless lies told by US secretaries of state in the 21st century. Who can forget Colin Powell’s package of lies delivered to the UN about Saddam Hussein’s “weapons of mass destruction” or Kerry’s lie repeated endlessly that Assad “used chemical weapons against his own people” or the endless lies about “Iranian nukes”?

Remember that Kerry on a number of occasions stated that the US had proof that Assad crossed the “red line” by using chemical weapons. However, Kerry was never able to back up his statements with evidence. The US had no evidence to give the British prime minister whose effort to have Parliament approve Britain’s participation with Washington in a military attack on Syria was voted down. Parliament told the prime minister, “no evidence, no war.”

Again here is Kerry declaring “confidence” in statements that are directly contradicted by the Russian satellite photos and endless eye witnesses on the ground.

Why doesn’t Washington release its photos from its satellite?

author by Jackpublication date Wed Jul 23, 2014 16:19author address author phone Report this post to the editors

You're right Fred, most of the mainstream media is just brainwashing pumped into people's houses repeated over and over and over again. As long as they can give the impression that all right thinking people should believe one version of events then it gives them room to do the things they want. These people are so twisted that they will use the deaths of the plane passengers as a way to demonise Putin and make some more moves on the global chessboard.

How to protect yourself from psychopaths

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author by KMpublication date Thu Jul 24, 2014 20:22author address author phone Report this post to the editors

US Intelligence: No Evidence Russia Did It

Paul Craig Roberts

After days of placing hostile blame for the downing of the Malaysian airliner on Russia, the White House permitted US intelligence officials to tell reporters that there is no evidence of the Russian government’s involvement.

Obviously, the US satellite photos do not support the Obama regime’s lies. If the White House had any evidence of Russian complicity, it would have released it to great fanfare days ago.

We are fortunate that the analytical side of the CIA, in contrast with the black ops side, retains analysts with integrity even after the purge of the agency ordered by Dick Cheney. Incensed that the CIA did not immediately fall in line with all of the Bush regime’s war lies, Cheney had the agency purged. The black ops side of the agency is a different story. Many believe that it should be defunded and abolished as this part of the CIA operates in violation of statutory US law.

Don’t hold your breath until Washington abolishes black-ops operations or the Obama regime apologizes to the Russian government for the unfounded accusations and insinuations leveled by the White House at Russia.

Despite this admission by US intelligence officials, the propaganda ministry is already at work to undermine the admission. The intelligence officials themselves claim that Russia is, perhaps, indirectly responsible, because Russia “created the conditions” that caused Kiev to attack the separatists.

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author by fredpublication date Fri Jul 25, 2014 16:20author address author phone Report this post to the editors

He has a most interesting piece of analysis here. A must read:

author by KMpublication date Sat Jul 26, 2014 22:00author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Does Russia (And Humanity) Have A Future?

Europe is complicit in its own demise

Paul Craig Roberts

The Russian government has finally realized that it has no Western “partners,” and is complaining bitterly about the propagandistic lies and disinformation issued without any evidence whatsoever against the Russian government by Washington, its European vassals, and presstitute media.

Perhaps the Russian government thought that only Iraq, Libya, Syria, China, and Edward Snowden would be subjected to Washington’s lies and demonization.

It was obvious enough that Russia would be next.

The Russian government and Europe need to look beyond Washington’s propaganda, because the reality is much worst.

NATO commander General Breedlove and Senate bill 2277 clearly indicate that Washington is organizing itself and Europe for war against Russia (see my previously posted column).

Europe is reluctant to agree with Washington to put Ukraine in NATO. Europeans understand that if Washington or its stooges in Kiev cause a war with Russia Europe will be the first casualty. Washington finds its vassals’ noncompliance tiresome. Remember Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland’s “fuck the EU.” And that is just what Washington is about to do.

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author by fredpublication date Sun Jul 27, 2014 01:57author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Here is Putin's perspective from the horses mouth:

I think he sounds like a pretty copped on rational geopolitical actor here and a safe pair of hands
Unlike some of the dangerous buffoons in other governments I could mention

author by amusedpublication date Wed Jul 30, 2014 21:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Putin's economic advisor reveals the massive militarization of Ukraine, intended not only to crush Donbass, but to re-take Crimea, and be the puppets to start another world war for further consolidation of the US hegemony over Eurasia.

About Sergei Glazyev.

Sergei Glazyev, formerly a deputy of the State Duma, was appointed in 2012 as the economic advisor to the President on economic integration in the framework of the Customs Union.

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author by East Galway Residentpublication date Thu Jul 31, 2014 09:52author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"They're destroying hospitals, kindergartens, schools ..."

The excerpt just above has come from:

"Peaceful and lawful "regime change" in the Republic (so called sometimes) of the United States of America is now long overdue, and DESPERATELY needed in the best interests of "humanity as a whole", and of "Life on Earth" generally?"

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author by fredpublication date Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Post here quotes German pilot and air technology expert Peter Haisenko and suggests MH17 shot down by another aircraft:

if you look at the image of
Cockpit-Fragments, this picture is certainly shocking.
Entry And Exit holes from bullets in the area of the Cockpit.
This is not speculation, but analysis of clear facts: the cockpit
shows clear evidence of bullet holes. You can see the entry holes and
some exit points. The edges of the bullet holes are bent inwards,
these are much smaller and round in shape. A 30mm calibre. The exit
holes are less well formed and the edges are torn outwards.
Furthermore it is visible that the exit holes have torn the double
aluminium skin and bent them outwards. That is to say, splinters from
inside the cockpit blew through the outside of the cabin. The open
rivets have also been bent outwards….There is only one conclusion
one can make, and that is that this: the aircraft was not hit by a missile.
The damage to the aircraft is exclusively in the cockpit area….

Russia has published radar data that a
Ukranian SU 25 was close to MH 017. this corresponds with Spanish air
traffic control that two Ukranian fighter aircraft were in direct
contact with MH 017. Examine the weaponry of the SU 25: it is fitted
out with a 30mm cannon Type GSch-302 /AO-17A, with 250 rounds of
splintering exploding bullets on a belt – shrapnel rounds. The cockpit
of MH 017 was hit from TWO sides, as there are entry and exit holes on
the same side….’

Personally I don't believe the plane was downed by 30mm cannon of an SU25, but by an explosion or a missile of some sort, be it air to air or BUK.

However there is some interesting discussion in the comments about what exactly could have caused the marks on the wreckage etc

author by Crazy Catpublication date Sat Aug 02, 2014 13:56author address author phone Report this post to the editors

A wee word from Pepe Escobar:

author by East Galway Residentpublication date Sun Aug 03, 2014 12:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"The fascist coup they engineered in Ukraine is only the most recent example."

"They also ensure that the national security state, busy killing people in 130 countries, acts in the exclusive interest of transnational capital."

The above excerpts are from the following "Veterans Today" www location:

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author by East Galway Residentpublication date Wed Aug 06, 2014 17:04author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"Dr. Peter Phillips recently delivered a keynote address at the 2014 Fellowship of Reconciliation’s event in celebration of their 100th anniversary. The talk was given over the July 4th weekend at the Seabeck Conference Center, Seabeck Washington (  Phillips discussed the Transnational Corporate Class, US NATO Empire, capitalism, and corporate media propaganda. Phillips, former director of Project Censored from 1996-2010, is professor of sociology at Sonoma State, president of the Media Freedom Foundation/Project Censored, and co-host of the Project Censored Show on KPFA Pacifica Radio."

The above excerpt, which involves a one hour and nine minute associated video, has come from:

Celebrating FOR's (Fellowship of Reconciliation's) 100th year of bringing peace and justice to a broken world.
(July 3-6, 2014, Seabeck Conference Center, Seabeck Washington)

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author by KMpublication date Thu Aug 07, 2014 13:01author address author phone Report this post to the editors

US missile cruiser Vella Gulf has entered the Black Sea in what the American Navy described as a move to "to promote peace and stability in the region." Moscow has considered any such acts as “offensive.” ...

The multi-mission cruiser Vella Gulf is 173 meters long, carries up to 400 crewmembers aboard and can achieve a speed of over 30 knots. The vessel’s weapons include SM-2 surface-to-air missiles, Harpoon anti-ship missiles, Tomahawk cruise missiles, torpedoes, Phalanx Close-in Weapons Systems for self-defense against aircraft and missiles, and five-inch, rapid fire guns.

Vladimir Putin has promised Russia will respond to NATO’s expansion towards its borders.

“No matter what our Western counterparts tell us, we can see what’s going on," Putin said at an emergency Security Council meeting in late July. "As it stands, NATO is blatantly building up its forces in Eastern Europe, including the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea areas. Its operational and combat training activities are gaining in scale.”

Putin stated that NATO’s military build-up near Russia’s border is not just for defense, but is an “offensive weapon” and an “element of the US offensive system deployed outside the mainland.”

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author by Tpublication date Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:45author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The claim that the whereabouts of this claim was unknown is simply not believable because it turns out that besides the remote engine monitoring software embedded in the Rolls-Royce engine and which transmits its data every 30 mins via satellite back to it's global engine health monitoring center in Derby, UK, the plane also had on board device known as the Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot (Fly-By-Wire remote control) that has supposedly been equipped in all Boeing planes since 1995, according to Field McConnell, a retired 35 year Delta pilot:

“This information was apparently not released until March of 2007, following a subsequent lawsuit by McConnell. The modification was reported to the FAA, NTSB and ALPA ( airline pilots association). According to McConnell’s documents, Boeing is said to have stated that by end of 2009 all Boeing planes would be fitted with the BUAP - making them impossible to manually hijack within the plane but susceptible to remote control by the military, according the flight veteran.”

author by anonpublication date Sun Oct 19, 2014 23:54author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The title says it all. They are not fooled. Maybe fooled once but not twice. Given the article came from the state press then that is really putting it out there.

Here's some key parts from a report carried by WSWS on the New Strait Times newspaper.

The New Straits Times article, titled “US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft,” lays out evidence that Ukrainian fighter aircraft attacked the jetliner with first a missile, then with bursts of 30-millimeter machine gun fire from both sides of MH17. The Russian army has already presented detailed radar and satellite data showing a Ukrainian Sukhoi-25 fighter jet tailing MH17 shortly before the jetliner crashed.
It cited “experts who had said that the photographs of the blast fragmentation patterns on the fuselage of the airliner showed two distinct shapes—the shredding pattern associated with a warhead packed with ‘flechettes,’ and the more uniform, round-type penetration holes consistent with that of cannon rounds.”
The New Straits Times cited several sources to substantiate its position. One was testimony by a Canadian-Ukrainian monitor for the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), Michael Bociurkiw—one of the first investigators to arrive at the crash site. Speaking to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation on July 29, Bociurkiw said: “There have been two or three pieces of fuselage that have been really pockmarked with what almost looks like machine gun fire; very, very strong machine gun fire.”
Parry indicated that sections of the US intelligence apparatus have concluded that US secretary of state John Kerry’s claims that pro-Russian forces shot down the plane are lies.

“Only three days after the crash, Secretary of State Kerry did the rounds of the Sunday talk shows making what he deemed an ‘extraordinary circumstantial’ case supposedly proving that the rebels carried out the shoot-down with missiles provided by Russia. He acknowledged that the US government was ‘not drawing the final conclusion here, but there is a lot that points at the need for Russia to be responsible,’ ” Parry wrote. “By then, I was already being told that the US intelligence community lacked any satellite imagery supporting Kerry’s allegations, and that the only Buk missile system in that part of Ukraine appeared to be under the control of the Ukrainian military.”

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author by anonpublication date Fri Dec 04, 2020 14:40author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The MH17 and the Southern Cauldron

Extensive analysis at @

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