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category limerick | animal rights | opinion/analysis author Wednesday June 03, 2009 16:36author by John Fitzgerald - campaign for the Abolition of Cruel sports (CACS)author email jfitzge3 at eircom dot netauthor address callan, co kilkennyauthor phone 0567725543 Report this post to the editors

Stop Grants to Greyhounds and Horse racing

The finding of three mutilated greyhound carcasses this week at a popular seaside resort (Kilteery Pier in County Limerick) shows just how expendable these animals are deemed by their owners once their performance days are over.

The likelihood that they were greyhounds bred for hare coursing, judging from their build, should serve as yet another reminder that we are one of the few remaining countries that still permit this depraved and viciously cruel blood sport.

Stop funding the Greyhound Industry
Stop funding the Greyhound Industry

The dumping of a coursing greyhound, after killing it and slicing off its ears to prevent identification (ID numbers are tattooed on the ears), is but the culmination of a cycle of abuse and savagery that commences when a coursing club sets off into the countryside to net hares.

The wild creatures are snatched from their natural home in the countryside, many of them suffering injury or death in the process. The ones that survive netting are confined in cramped and unnatural conditions (the hare is a solitary creature, lacking the herd mentality), and then subjected to unnatural “training” to run in a straight line down a coursing enclosure.

At the coursing events, the greyhounds, which have been transformed into virtual killing machines via “blooding” (being fed live rabbits or cats-hares are now too scarce in many parts of Ireland to “waste” as training fodder) are unleashed upon the hares to terrorise all of them and inflict injury or death on those that fail to reach the escape hatch in time.

Big cheers for the dogs that perform well; hugs for the winners, and drinks all round in the pubs and hotels afterwards. But when the slick, turbo-charged killing machines turn soft and no longer rise to the challenge set by the coursing clubs, the “sportspeople” who ludicrously claim to love both dogs and hares with equal affection have no further use for the animals they have so eagerly exploited for animal baiting.

Hence the kind of incident that revolted holiday-makers at Kilteery Pier, and the many other ugly scenes of cruelty and abandonment that result from this callous disregard for greyhounds and hares alike that is the hallmark of the Irish hare coursing scene.

And to think that the present government is STILL pouring huge amounts of taxpayer’s money (in the middle of a recession!) into an industry that encompasses this barbarism, notwithstanding the Green Party’s policy commitment to a ban on hare coursing.

For how long more will our country be disgraced by this obscenity?

Related Link: http://www.greyhoundaction.org.uk
author by Mike Novackpublication date Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:48author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It seems despicable to me that people would bet on the outcome of animals killing animals. Weird having dogs chasin hares in an unnatural setting. And certainly despicable killing ones that don't "perform" well. But someting about this piece bothers me ......

"At the coursing events, the greyhounds, which have been transformed into virtual killing machines via “blooding” (being fed live rabbits or cats-hares are now too scarce in many parts of Ireland to “waste” as training fodder) are unleashed upon the hares to terrorise all of them and inflict injury or death on those that fail to reach the escape hatch in time."

1) natural vs unnatural --- Are you meaning to say that you would have no objections to "field coursing"? Somehow I doubt that.

2) the nature of dogs ----- not "killing machines" but killing ANIMALS. That's the sort of critter a dog is and a healthy dog needs absolutely no outside inducement to chase down and if it can catch it, rip apart some prey animal. At least that's true for dogs over here, perhaps Irish dogs are different? To the extent that dogs do no behave in this manner that is the result of selective breeding by humans for unnatural characteristics. Pretty soft pussy ambushes small rodents and birds; by and large human fancy for various fur colors and patterns hasn't damaged their hunting abilities too much. But some dog breeds are too slow and clumsy to catch much of anything, that's all.

In other words, when my dog is outdoors and a bunny (or anything else pops into view -- a border collie/Australian shepherd crosss so a "sight hound"). off he goes. Or a deer. Or a moose or bear which he has sense enough to harrass but not close in on. An it's by experience that he leaves skunks and porcupines alone (their defenses are quite sufficient against a dog). That's NORMAL behavior for a dog. It's what that sort of animal is supposed to do. Not bad/wrong.

This is not "just a dumb animal; doesn't know any better". If you think that there is something bad/wrong about the situation then essentially you are saying nature/life is bad/wrong. Which is your perogative of course. By all means seeks a better higher plane of existence if that is what you believe in. Just count me out.

author by Catladypublication date Sun Jun 07, 2009 02:06author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Mike I think you hav missed the point of this article. It is certainly not to demonise dogs, from my reading!

Much of what you say is true - horribly inbred dogs who can no longer perform naturally and so on.... however there is a VAST difference between a dog (or cat or whatever the predatory animal in question) following his or her instinct to hunt, and a gang of humans snatching endangered wilddlife so this can be done for bets, whilst at the same time treating the hunting animal (in this case the greys) with such utter contempt once they are no longer "useful".

I have 7 cats, 2 snakes and 2 dogs, so I can see the predatory instincts in various stages of "domestication" if you will. The dogs are crossbreeds, a Jack russell cross who certainly has the instinct to hunt but is deathly afraid of thrushes and chickens (you'd have to ask her why!) but licks snakes (??? once again) and a collie cross who just loves everyone..... This is obviously a result of domestication and both are a far cry from wolves!

The cats are obviously different. Some of the 7 hunt (unfortunately and thankfully none seem very good at it) but it certainly has not been bred out of them yet. As cats are most useful as hunters of mice and rats, I suppose it was never intended to breed them for anything other than "prettiness".

The snakes don't get the chance to hunt as obviously the cold here in Ireland would kill them if they were set free. And it's illegal to do so for obvious reasons. But they most certainly still have that instinct and I keep them well away from the cats!

If I were a gambling woman (as are those brought to light in the above article) I could place a cat against the python and see who wins/escapes. I don't because it is horrific and cruel and yes, unnatural A grey chasing a trrapped animal is as unnatural as 2 pitbulls thrown into a pit or me chucking the python and the cat into a cage. It is horrific and totally unnatural.

author by Mike Novackpublication date Sun Jun 07, 2009 18:29author address author phone Report this post to the editors

No, I wasn't missing the intended point of the article and I thought that I had been clear enough about that (the people betting on the outcome, the unnatural setting, etc.)

I was trying to be helpful, because sorry, using doubtful language/thought in a piece makes it easier for enemies to discount the entire thing.

Dogs have been messed up by their breeding in some cases but probably more generally by their living in overly "indoor" settings and in overly built up areas. I don't live in the city and out here dogs except for little yappers that have to be kept in lest they end up as fisher food often get to wander. Ours always have. Just trained not to cross the bridge out to the road and they can be loose when outdoors. Mind we have around 87 acres of our own woods and that's part of several square kms of continuous forest canopy with no drivable roads in it.

Lots of wildlife (up to bear and moose) and every dog that has ever lived here has hunted/scavenged. How good at it to a certain extent depending on the dog. And after all the biomass in voles exceeds the biomass in deer (so much of what even the large dogs catch are voles, wood rats, etc.). But this is about chasing, not necessarily catching, and never has a rabbit or hare been sighted by one of the dogs that they didn't take off chasing. Pretty rare for them to ever catch a squirrel or chipmunk as those are fast and wary, but they don't give up trying.

I was objecting to talking about sight hounds like greyhounds needing to be trained to chase -- to that being called "machine". Quite the converse, to the extent that a greyhound has to be trained to the chase is a measure of breeding damaging to the "purpose" of the animal (I mean natural purpose)

author by Pete.publication date Mon Jun 08, 2009 17:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"The cats are obviously different. Some of the 7 hunt (unfortunately and thankfully none seem very good at it) but it certainly has not been bred out of them yet. As cats are most useful as hunters of mice and rats, I suppose it was never intended to breed them for anything other than "prettiness"."

Maybe not!

The cats are probably the wildest animals in your house...as they are almost untouched by human "breeding".

Probably,they don't bother hunting because you feed them so well !

For the very latest on the origins of house-cats see this month's Scientific American:


author by catladypublication date Tue Jun 09, 2009 01:42author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Pete I'm fairly sure the snakes are wilder judging by their personalities, biology and history with humans. One of my cats is semi wild. Why would you think a snake would be more domesticated than a cat???? Genuine question!

author by Catladypublication date Tue Jun 09, 2009 01:54author address author phone Report this post to the editors

But (to me anyway!) the point of thisd article is to highlight the cruelty involved in human exploitation of these dogs.

I fail to see how your response helps that argument. |Perhaps I am missing something?

Either way there is a vast vast difference between your dogs running and catching voles/rats/rabbits and a pack of profit-lustful humans trapping endangered wild animals to train them to escape via a hole in a fence. Sorry but cats/dogs can hunt all they like in nature, nothing excuses idiots trapping animals so it can be done to make money!

author by Pete.publication date Tue Jun 09, 2009 08:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

"Why would you think a snake would be more domesticated than a cat????"

By "wildest" I should have written "most savage".

A hungry house-cat is a ferociously efficient,and merciless, killer.

As was pointed out in the Scientific American article most "house-cats" are feral, running wild in the back streets of cities etc.living off their own wits.

As the article pointed out,the genetic different between house-cats and the true "Wildcat" ( which has never been domesticated) are so trivial that they are about the same as between the French and the Italians..

Spot the differences....

The true Scottish Wildcat:

"The Scottish wildcat is infamously the only wild animal to be completely untameable, even when captive reared; they may look a little like your pet cat but these are incredibly tough superpredators, sometimes called the Tiger of the Highlands."

Untamed Frenchman:

Untamed Italian:

No difference...

author by John Carmody - Animal Rights Action Network (ARAN)publication date Tue Jun 09, 2009 22:27author address author phone arancampaigns@eircom.netReport this post to the editors

The helpless dog featured in that picture above is called 'angel'. Myself and another volunteer Niamh Allen rescued her in the most horrific circumstances several years ago. She was dieing when we got to her, children in the local area abused her so much and stuck nails in her.

Thankfully we got her out of this situation and she now lives with devoted guardians in Co Limerick and she is doing very very well, but of course for everyone grey we find there are always so many that are in need of our help.

Over the coming weeks ARAN will be announcing a national day of action against greyhound racing, contact ARAN for more information.

author by Josh Bpublication date Sat Sep 25, 2010 17:03author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I agree with Mike. I dont "blood train" my hound and she goes absolutely bonkers for any quick, little creature. It is truly written in them.
However i think the biggest offense here is the fact that they kill their dogs when they do not do well in the sport. That is horrendous...how could you kill your own dog?
So i say, if it takes a little slanderous propaganda to get these dogs some help, go right ahead and say these people blood train and torture, and even molest children. If you can kill your own dog you're probably capable of a lot worse, especially if the big money is hanging in front of your face. Human life only seems so great and superior because we ARE human, but it is all the same for every life. These people should be killed too and i would not shed a tear for them.

author by Realistpublication date Sun Sep 26, 2010 18:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Look around you
Human life is not that important either
just money.

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