J19: 'Indignants' to protest EU Pact in Dublin, Cork, Galway and Limerick

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Friday June 17, 2011 19:04

by eeekkk - Real Democracy Now! Ireland

They don't represent us! Rights are won, not given! We are not commodities! It is not a crisis, it is a con! If you take our future, we will take the city! We are the children of comfort but we will not be parents of conformity!

Sunday June 19th will see Europe-wide protests against the forthcoming ratification of the Euro Pact. As part of this international mobilisation, Real Democracy Now! Ireland have organised demonstrations around the country. Simultaneous protests will take place at 4pm at the following locations:

The Spire, O’Connell Street, Dublin
O'Connell Street, Limerick
Grand Parade, Cork
Spanish Arch, Galway.

The Irish demonstrations are a response to a call from Spain’s Real Democracy Now! movement for a co-ordinated European response on the 19th June to the upcoming ratification of this Pact.

The event planners hope that by combining public protest and public assembly, everyone present at the events will have a chance to speak, express their grievances, and take collective decisions on further actions against the imposition of austerity across Europe.

The organizers want the protest to be peaceful and relaxed and are asking those attending to respect four rules:

1. No political party or trade union banners
2. No flags
3. No violence
4. No alcohol or drugs.

The organizers have expressed frustration with the “political establishment”. “We have no faith in the politicians”, said Maria, “we want to reinvent democracy, bring it to the streets and create an assembly where everyone can represent themselves; because the politicians don’t represent us”.

A key element of the Euro Pact, the European Stability Mechanism, is to be signed off by EU Governments at the end of June. But the pact also includes measures of fiscal, wage and public service 'reform' for all member states. According to the European Council, these measures are aimed at achieving greater 'competitiveness' and 'flexibility', as well as 'fiscal and financial responsibility'.

However the organisers maintain that the Pact will be harmful for the vast majority of people across Europe, and that its measures will guarantee (i) the continuation of disastrous ‘adjustment’ policies, through the European Stability Mechanism, (ii) More cuts in the public sector, (iii) Higher unemployment, (iv) Lower wages, (v) Longer working hours and ‘flexibility’ of contracts and (vi) the further curtailment of workers’ rights.

“The Euro Pact will copperfasten the way the crisis is already being managed”, according to Maria, a participant in preparations for the Irish Real Democracy Now! events, “it will mean more austerity, attacks on working conditions and the undermining of public services.”

Real Democracy Now! Irish Facebook Event Pages: Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway

A list of some of the other cities in Europe taking part in the J19 mobilisation is available in the 'more info' section of this Facebook event page (if you hit the 'see more' link).

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report on Madrid demo etc

by Diarmuid Breatnach - Personal Capacity

Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:27

I have posted an article on this site on the Madrid demo on 19th in which I participated.

Slogans of the Spanish Revolution 19J

by Sara Barcelona

Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:50

Slogans and placards of the Spanish revolution on 19 June with subtitles in English.

The #IrishRevolution starts now

by #IrishRevolution

Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:02

revolutionstartsnow at yahoo dot ie

NO COMPROMISE - ONLY REVOLUTION
Saturday JULY 2nd 12.30pm*
GARDEN of REMEMBRANCE, DUBLIN 1
http://tinyurl.com/6c6muun

A call out has been put together, "PROTEST!! IMF/World Bank Will Arrive Here On July 4th And Stay Until July 15th." and at the same time on the Dublin DRY FB page (Real Democracy Now / Democracia Real Ya) a question has been asked:

The government is asking to the people how to do cuts and save money. What do you think if the same day at the same hour we (RDN-Dublin or even RDN-Ireland) write them our solutions: not to pay the debt or increase tax to the rich or the transactions...?

The link for this idea is from the Examiner:

Government asks public for ideas on cuts
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/government-asks-pu....html

THE Government has appealed for the public’s help in identifying ways to slash public spending.

Citing the huge financial pressures on the country, Public Expenditure Minister Brendan Howlin asked people to submit "creative, constructive proposals" for saving money.

"The challenge facing our country is so great that no reasonable proposal can be ignored," he said, inviting submissions on everything from wasteful practices to the future of state agencies.

The appeal came as Taoiseach Enda Kenny was accused of "covering up" the potentially harmful effects of raiding pensions to fund the Government’s jobs initiative.

Mr Howlin said the public consultation exercise would feed into the Government’s comprehensive spending review, which is expected to be finished in September.

This has led to a FB poll from DRY.IE at http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=question&id=2281910...ef=qd asking:

Government asks public for ideas on cuts. We are thinking to send ours at the same time. Could you suggest some? (see image below)

Here I leave you with the call for Revolution for REAL democracy, which comes from Micheal Gallagher, and seems to build on the ever growing model of things that has been so successfull here in the #spanishrevolution (details: http://www.indymedia.ie/article/99876 ) (IMC-IE editors, this post exists in FB but not in the true "public realm")

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PROTEST!! IMF/World Bank Will Arrive Here On July 4th And Stay Until July 15th.

PEOPLE

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank will be in Ireland from July 4th until July 15th. On July 15th, the IMF/WB vultures will be flying over us as they leave Ireland and again will be salivating and sneering at us on their way back to their ill gotten gains. Calling for a referendum and marching after the vultures have flown is pointless. Asking for permission to vote on something we never consented to in the first place? Deals done with the bloodsucking ECB/IMF/WB vampires by the corrupt, inept Fianna Fáil gangsters. Fine Gael/Labour wereelected on the false premise that they would take on the banks and senior bondholders.

The Labour Party election manifesto stated; “Labour does not accept that the EU/IMF dealprovides a workable basis for restoring the Irish economy.” Fine Gael said during the election campaign: "Irish and other European taxpayers can no longer be expected to carry the can for reckless lending between Irish and other banks. It is a basic rule of capitalism that if you lend recklessly, you must take the consequences." It seems that one of the most basic rules of capitalism is, the more they take, the more they want, as we are witnessing since the last FF/Green government and continued with this FG/Labour coalition.

This government lied their way to power, and the EU/IMF/WB are getting their way. There is no guarantee that they will give us the victory which we would obviously win if we had a referendum on the EU/IMF/WB deals. Remember Nice and Lisbon? A victory the Fianna Fáil/Green coalition stole from us for their masters in the EU/ECB/IMF/WB, which was supported and campaigned for by the current Fine Gael/Labour government. Partners in democracy? PARTNERS IN CRIME!! They gave away our sovereignty, they owe us our country. We shouldtake our country back.

REVOLUTION IS THE ONLY ANSWER - REVOLUTION FOR REAL DEMOCRACY

There will be another gather to gather for revolution and start to take our country back is on July 2nd when Ajai Chopra with those other leeches and vultures are preparing to make MORE DEALS, impose MORE AUSTERITY, look for MORE SELL OFFS, demand MORE CUTS, inflict MORE MISERY and enjoy seeing MORE PAIN forced on the EXTRAordinary people of Ireland. It's time to shout NO MORE!! NO TO THE EU - ECB - IMF - WB BLOODSUCKERS! Let's stop these parasites in their tracks and show them some fighting spirit. IT'S TIME THE FIGHTING IRISH ROSE UP AGAIN! Bring down this government! Bring down this coalition government of lying, conniving collaborators with the enemies of the people.

The only way to stop the ECB/IMF is to take to the streets in our hundreds of thousands and don't move off them until this government is brought down and these deals are scrapped. This current government's (like many others) election win was based on a pack of lies.

THEREFORE THEY ARE IN POWER BY DEFAULT! THEY SHOULD BE REMOVED BY THE PEOPLE.

Then we can tell the EU/ECB/IMF/WB to get lost and take their 'austerity' measures with them!! Or better still, throw all of them and there puppets in jail for crimes against the peoples of Ireland and beyond!! The bondholders, bankers, etc will have to suffer the consequences.

NO COMPROMISE - ONLY REVOLUTION
Saturday JULY 2nd 12.30pm* Poster says 2pm. Its 12.30m pm gathering time
GARDEN of REMEMBRANCE
DUBLIN 1
http://tinyurl.com/6c6muun

You cannot get people power throught parliaments - People power is on the streets!

VICTORY TO THE PEOPLE - BUA DO NA DAOINE

People have indicated they will start camping out after this demonstration. We should camp at least while the IMF are here which will be about until 15/16 Juy. Food and cooking facilities will be provided.

NO POLITICAL PARTY BANNERS OR MATERIAL PLEASE but your members support is very welcome. This is a open public demonstration with an open microphone, but there will be speakers on the day from community groups, anti war, anti racism and other organisations.

VOLUNTEERS are needed to hand out leaflets and put up posters, see email address below.

This 'from the ground up' initiative for the people has no connection with any political party or any other organisation. For more info email: revolutionstartsnow@yahoo.ie

The #IrishRevolution starts now: Saturday JULY 2nd 12.30pm

DRY Ireland asks the public for solutions

Caption: Video Id: EG8ZUaLACZ8 Type: Youtube Video
Steve Earle - The Revolution Starts Now

Ireland is not Spain

by indignant

Tue Jun 21, 2011 17:26

in response to Dunk.

Some Irish people came out to the Spire to support the Spanish community who were standing in solidarity with their
friends and families in Madrid, Catlunya and other centres. Some Irish political groups went to monitor and meet with
the protestors (you may have mentioned above that Allen was there, amongst others).

essentially the protest that you compared to the 'wally-day' was not a failure as one supposes that conversations
occurred , however, the deep level of betrayal and anger felt here and the shock that this country is in is not going
to manifest for your convenience a mass-movement for a few reasons :

* A grass-root mass movement of protest will be lead from beneath, and by those people whose governments
have betrayed them at the deepest level, that is something that cannot manifest (or occur) because it'd be
really cool to have everything all neatly timed and working in concert with other PIIGs countries. life is not
so convenient- i am sorry.

* failed political leadership, the irish national character is ambitious and thinks that the gaining of power
absolves them from reaching out to and translating need. This can be seen in the amount of angry young
(mostly men) who have either joined the Dáil/ the Times/ the Village or sought lectureships in our colleges.
These provide convenient indoctrinating platforms for their pet causes and their ability to spot other angry
types and encourage them on. The exercise is an impotence and has only succeeded in theoretical politics
which aren't (like our political parties) interested in poverty issues or indeed in equality- they will continue to
fail whilst drawing salaries and building houses (sad but true).

* Irish people have experienced at least three years of betrayal, lies and watching parties refuse to engage
with poverty and alienation, I reckon that this equals to flare-ups, violence and urban war-fare tactics, which
is why citizens forums are popping up. : Politicians know and recognise their level of sick betrayals and wish
to have a fighting chance to retain power, so they set up talking shops (one recently produced a senator) in
much the same fashion as FF appointed boards etcetera.

I (living here) have much hope for women to protest but unfortunately both the Dáil and its pretend opposition
are too bound-up in their pretty words, theoretical politics and self-appointed talking shops to understand that
they have consistently alienated a huge sector of society , which having responsibility for the young and first
hit by poverty will be the first to strike here.

So Dunk, have a happy and wonderful postcardy time in BCN but please do not take the piss out of
the Irish wallies when the pace of change here occurs in entirely different political and economic circumstances
to those that you are immersed in. + please understand that you are living in another country and thus have
no right (really) to expect that everyone is living in the same manner and circumstances as your good self.

I found the wallies amusing enough and the protestors nice and friendly.

In response to * Spain is NOT Ireland, your right... BUT...

by Dunk

Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:40

* Spain is NOT Ireland, your right, but they are both PIGGYs and both in the shit. Yes theres differences, but there is always differences, no matter how you cut it: Leinster is not Munster, Dublin is not Clare... ok

We all are living on this little planet, which in case you hadnt noticed, is being quickly fucked up beyond belief (read John Vidals 'global weirding' article at http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/13/extreme-wea...fires ) and, probably, will end up making life unbearable for most if not all humans...

Anyways, above is not taking the piss, it is a constructive attempt to communicate to Irish people what is going on in the hope that indeed they do get INDIGNANT, maybe first at me for hitting a soft spot "Irish pride" (ive felt it and know it from seeing how "irish" are treated different to "english" in Iran, Pakistan and beyond), then maybe the situation that they are in. That is the first step, next step is to think "f*ck it, Spain are not taking it anymore, why are we???" (is that happening yet? NO, 256 people (more or less) took to the irish streets for the J19 call - in fairness, that bollox, IMHO)

Well aware of whats going on up north, I know it, have friends there, regularly visit when home. Oddly enough, before the J19 demo in Barcelona, the only fellow around the table who had been there, bar myself and maybe 1 other lad, was the Catalan Gaelic football player. All the GAA lads and mates from most other parts had never ventured up (another normal enough stat, if you ask about)

* Spain is NOT Ireland, a simple fact is that here in Spain, dancing, singing, rhythym is in their blood and everywhere in the culture, interesting to see how badly the paddies, myself included, dance along with the spanish. We're different and the same, as you and I are different and the same.

So, sin é, a chara. By the way, were you on the streets for J19? what constructive criticism can you offer on how to build this movement in Ireland so that the people in ireland once again feel as we do here and now in spain "We can win this and we WILL win this! WE ARE WINNING"

slán

BTW: TWEET about above article post is at http://twitter.com/#!/fuspey/status/83122767712616448 should ye wish to RETWEET it.

Heres a vid or 2 for ye...

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDi1Jwr7BiM
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_w0pTkusnU

Who are the real Wallies? Why the F*CK are the Irish people still asleep???

Caption: Video Id: iDi1Jwr7BiM Type: Youtube Video
19 de junio de 2011 - breathing

Caption: Video Id: G_w0pTkusnU Type: Youtube Video
19 de junio de 2011 - and indignant

solidarity is a 1 way street in ireland

by shoegirl

Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:19

Ireland is different because unfortunately most of the protesting against the direction Europe is taken is being organised by groups that largely represent the protected sectors. Those who are hit hardest have no real representation, as a result why should they support these protests?

In fairness, if you were a former employee of a non union private sector workplace being asked to come out and show "solidarity" with front line workers etc, would you? Why would you? After all, these guys still have work while you have nothing. The "solidarity" is not being shown back in kind. You've been left behind, so why bother backing people who are still way better off than you?

Spain is NOT Ireland

by *

Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:37

The problems are different but do feel free to take the piss of your fellows whilst exhaling adrenalin.

by Dunk (INDIGNANT Irish expat in the #SpanishRevolution)

Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:14

So despite having lost Economic Independance, despite 1000 people a week having to leave the country, despite so much (mostly late at night barstool) mutterings of "The countries fucked... bla bla bla" when push comes to shove, it looks like the rise of INDIGNATION has still not hit the fair little green isle...

Its not like people didnt know, they did. Its not like there isnt plenty of people who are trying to change things, there are. What is it then? Why are the IRISH still asleep, why will they not wake up? What will it take to wake them up?

Sundays international day of action (In my city, Barcelona a quarter of a million people took to the streets) was responded to in the 4 corners of Ireland by only 200 people (mainly spanish and greek???) in Dublin, 40 (mainly spanish and greek???) in Cork and with no written reports yet, we get a response from Limerick "Just 10 in Limerick, but not bad for a first time event I think" and still waiting to hear from Galway.

BUT, its not that Irish people cant take to the streets, the day before in Dublin: 3,567 people dressed-up as Wally from 'Where's Wally?...

I dont know, has anything changed in Ireland. I left it in 2006, partly, due to this (aswell as to learn stuff elsewhere). Then the crisis came and it seemed Irish people were starting to wake up, but no. It still looks like the country is dozing. Im INDIGNANT at how this world is being destroyed, Im INDIGNANT at how the international world of capitalism is able (through people not doing anything) to keep on destroying so much of the planet and normal peoples lives BUT Im also INDIGNANT at the, seemingly, absolute lack of drive from the Irish people to RECLAIM their/ our country.

Anyways, I wont go on, ye have heard it all before...

Slán agus bannacht. Éireann abú.

(INDIGNANT Irish expat in the #SpanishRevolution) Dunk

*** INFOS ***

- Where's Wally? World Record Attempt in Dublin (18th June 2011)
http://www.demotix.com/news/729333/wheres-wally-world-r...ublin

3,567 people dressed-up as Wally from 'Where's Wally?' gathered in Dublin today to break the World Record of the largest gathering of people dressed as Wally, as part of the Street Performance World Championship. Dublin, Ireland.

- Indignant movement back in Ireland - Dublin (19th June 2011)
Around 200 people assembled in Dublin to protest against the austerity measures imposed by the Irish government. The second protest of the Irish Indignant movement took place just 4 weeks after the first demonstration. Ireland. 19th June 2011
http://www.demotix.com/news/730194/indignant-movement-b...ublin

Around 200 people, a mix of Irish, Spanish, Greek and other nationalities assembled outside the GPO in Dublin's O'Connell Street today for the second installment for the Irish Indignant protests. These protests were part of a European wide response against the Euro Pact and the measures contained in it, which should bring more stability to the Euro, but is seen by many people as being too harsh, but also as impinging on the sovereignty of countries.
The Irish protests took also place at the same time in Cork, Galway and Limerick.

The protest in Dublin lasted for 3 hours and consisted not only of shouting and slogans, but also of an assembly of the people, where everyone could air his grievances with the Euro Pact or ideas about it. Despite the protest being non-party political and no part flags or leaflets were allowed, some members of the Trotskyist Socialist Workers Party (SWP), including its main theorist Kieran Allen, were taking the microphone in this session. They left however the demonstration shortly afterwards, having arrived late as well.

The demonstration was part of the worldwide Indignent movement that has spread up since mid May in Spain, Greece and other European Countries in response to austerity measures introduced by several countries on behalf of the ECB, IMF and EU to stabilize the Euro currency.

Realed vid:
19J the day that 15M opened the eyes of the world
http://vimeo.com/25363599

This is what INDIGNANT and PEACEFUL revolution looks like: 1/4 million took Barcelona's streets on J19

This is what a crowd of F*CKING Wallies looks like: J18 Dublin takes to the streets "for the craic"

Caption: Video Id: 25363599 Type: Vimeo
19J the day that 15M opened the eyes of the world (but need to work a fair bit more to open the eyes of Ireland)

People of Europe Rise Up.

by European people waking up and rising up

Mon Jun 20, 2011 16:37

Free morning paper in London has great picture from Dublin's J19 Demo yesterday: People of Europe Rise Up.
http://pictures.metro.co.uk/latest-news/878083/Real-Dem...otest

This is the call that was made from Greece in October 2010... Infos on that here: “Peoples of Europe, Rise Up” Greece’s message being taken up by France, and maybe beyond too?
http://itsafunnyoldworld.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/peopl...e-up/

People of Europe Rise Up: The call from Greece

People of Europe Rise Up: The initial response from Ireland

Wake Up Ireland: Irish J19 reports

by J19: global revolution

Mon Jun 20, 2011 16:33

Looks like there were about 200 in Dublin and 40 in Cork, reports etc:

Irish Examiner:
Euro Pact demonstrations set to begin later
http://www.examiner.ie/breakingnews/ireland/euro-pact-d....html

Similar protests are to go ahead in Dublin, Galway, Cork and Limerick to coincide with rally's across mainland Europe.

Organisers of the events here - Real Democracy Now! Ireland - says the pact includes measures of fiscal, wage and public service change for all EU member states.

Eamonn Crudden, a participant in today's protests, said that the Irish demonstrations are a reaction to a call from Spain’s Real Democracy Now! movement for a co-ordinated European response to the upcoming ratification of this Pact.

"What we're doing is to an extent inspired by what's going on in the squares in Spain and what's been going on in Greece over the last week," he said.

This little PIGGY wont pay

Dont look at us - JOIN US

We too have WMD's (Weapons of mass DIFFUSION)

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RDN Dublin 19th June protest 1

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RDN Dublin 19th June protest 2

JY23 - next global call-out = 23.vii.11

by %

Mon Jun 20, 2011 15:38

On the 23rd of July, 6 walking groups from various destinations in the Spanish state (the first leaving Valencia today) will converge on Madrid which helpfully for this sort of thing is in the centre of the Iberian peninsula which alas also explains why one of the aims, in this state at least, is to move ""Madrid"" somewhere else. Of course global people have to think about whether moving ""Madrid"" is as important as moving some other ""node of state/corporative non-democratic power"" from where it unhelpfully is now to where it really would serve humanity best.....we might even discover in the distant future that we don 't need these dodgy constructs after all & we've been wasting so much poverty & misery on unsustainability all along. This might prove difficult for us all to admit at first because we don't like admitting that we kind of got things wrong before. But Of course the people of ""Madrid"" (or wherever you the global people decide your equivalent of ""Madrid"" is) - will even then be a better place for the people who live there now and we want to live in the future.

http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2011/06/20/actualid....html

...

by Fisatoir

Sun Jun 19, 2011 17:16

Resist the EU Empire!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAvPhw1awUo

19J What its all about + link for LIVE STREAM from Dublin 16h

by J19

Sun Jun 19, 2011 14:14

Call to Ireland - Pact of the Euro - 19J - Demonstrate!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgB2MJuJ75I

This is a call to Ireland.
The Pact of the Euro will have consequences to our lives.
We are Real Democracy Now.

Press Release Issued by Real Democracy Now! Ireland for 19-J
http://realdemocracynowireland.wordpress.com/2011/06/15...19-j/

Dublin Real Democracy Now Ireland demo will be streamed, click link from 16h onward
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/rdndublin

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Call to Ireland - Pact of the Euro - 19J - Demonstrate!

by .. - .

Sat Jun 18, 2011 17:17

by . - .

Sat Jun 18, 2011 15:14

Spanish Revolution, it begins, come on europe get up! (GREAT VID)

by #SpanishRevolution

Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:58

Spanish Revolution, it begins, come on europe get up!
by Act for Ireland (videos) http://www.facebook.com/ActForIreland
VID - http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=2094928860879...ments

SPANISH REVOLUTION-English (Muse Uprising)& IT BEGINS ,COME ON EUROPE GET UP!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIWn5FS5FkU

On the 15th May 2011 something changed in Spain

Society has awoken from a very deep sleep

A crisis created by POLITICIANS and BANKERS has left the country with 5,000,000 jobless, 43.5% under 25 have no jobs. Being the highest unemployment rate of the European Union.

A political landscape of greediness, corruption and incompetence has deeply damaged the country's democracy.

"It has been said that there is no alternative to capitalism. It has always been a means of domination. This system is already disintegrated, and corrupted, and it's really breaking down. That it's going to change; that's absolutely impossible to avoid for those that wish to avoid it."
José Luis Sampedro Sáez
Economist, Writer, Humanist

A GERM coming from the Arab revolts and Iceland is starting to spread across Europe

A need for JUSTICE and TRUE DEMOCRACY has UNIFIED PEOPLE of different political views, ages, religions and beliefs.

PEOPLE are spontaneously connecting for COMMON SENSE

Pursuing a new system that should place CITIZENS before ECONOMY, breaking with an OBSOLETE SYSTEM that brings misery to HUMANKIND

PEOPLE are AWAKENING

"Today, we have left aside our own symbols, our particular concerns because we want to demonstrate that what links us together is indignation, against government abuses, against the big corporations, against financial entities"

WE DEMAND A DEMOCRACY THAT SHOWS ZERO TOLERANCE AGAINST CORRUPTION