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The coverage of the Spurious Claims of Chemical Attack by Syrian Army
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Tuesday August 27, 2013 08:58 by skeptical
The rebel terrorists have most to gain
Today the mainstream media are claiming that there has been a chemical attack by the Syrian government near Damascus even whilst an UN inspection team arrives. The reports have been conflicting with the initial reports claiming 280 victims and then later up-ing it to over 1,300 killed.
Update:: Mint Press News: EXCLUSIVE: Syrians In Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack
Going back to the May accusations against the rebels by the UN, their human rights investigator Carla del Ponte said at the time:
But there is more compelling evidence that the rebels already used the sarin nerve gas earlier in this year and if they used it then, then that makes a very strong case about they being the perpetrators today. Reuters reported in their article, “U.N. has testimony that Syrian rebels used sarin gas: investigator,” that: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-syria-crisis-unbre94409z-20130505,0,2453519.story U.N. human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria’s civil war and medical staff indicating that rebel forces have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday. The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law, said commission member Carla Del Ponte. “Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated,” Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television. And this is expanded on in the article: https://landdestroyer.wordpress.com/2013/05/06/in-wake-of-us-israeli-attack-on-syria-un-reveals-terrorists-not-government-used-sarin-gas/
by Another FFS Mon Sep 16, 2013 22:39
Pile of shite, Turas above links to an idiot Gerry Coleman writing on conspiracy theory site global research.
by FFS Mon Sep 16, 2013 13:25
regarding the honesty or integrity of that "anonymous source", Joe. The UK parliament voted against a strike on Syria prior to the missile incident. Not AFTER, as the "anonymous source" states
by Joe Mc Sun Sep 15, 2013 09:34
There are reports circulating on pro-Syrian social media sites,based on an article in the Lebanese As-Safir newspaper, that say Russia shot down two Damascus-bound US ballistic missiles over the Mediterranean on September 3 . I haven't seen anything about this in the mainstream Western media .
by Crazy Cat Wed Sep 11, 2013 13:13
Article from George Monbiot
by W. Finnerty Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:01
#4) "Syria’s population is well informed about the New World Order - Its media and universities openly debate the global power elite’s influence in things. This means that they fully grasp the fact that real power in the West lies not in the White House, 10 Downing Street, Congress or Parliament, but rather with the complex and powerful grid of elite think-tanks led by New York’s Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderberg Conference, Trilateral Commission, Americas Society, World Economic forum and London’s Royal Institute of International Affairs, which interact with mega-bankers, media, universities, the military, multinationals and the corporate over-world."
by W. Finnerty Tue Sep 10, 2013 14:20
"Syria is not Libya. If the United States strikes Syria, we might be surprised at how hard Syria can hit back. The P-800 Yakhont anti-ship missiles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-800_Oniks) that Russia has equipped Syria with are the most advanced anti-ship missiles that Russia has."
by W. Finnerty Tue Sep 10, 2013 09:41
"President Obama is willing to “absolutely” put on pause a military strike on Syria if Bashar Assad accepts Russia’s proposal to hand over control of the country’s chemical weapons to the international community."
by W. Finnerty Sun Sep 08, 2013 16:50
"In an interview with Amy Goodman on March 2, 2007, U.S. General Wesley Clark (Ret.), explains that the Bush Administration planned to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Lybia, Somalia, Sudan, Iran."
by Joe Mc Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:20
Ignorance of the law is no defence under the law , but Obama is a professor of law anyway. Nuremburg prosecutor's words quoted in this wsws article today:
by W. Finnerty Sat Sep 07, 2013 09:26
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by W. Finnerty Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:30
GERALD CELENTE Emotional Call for a 2nd American Revolution."
by W. Finnerty Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:15
"Text of draft legislation delivered by President Barack Obama on Saturday to the speaker of the House and president of the Senate regarding authorization for the use of the U.S. armed forces in connection with the conflict in Syria."
by Pat Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:08
We can't influence world events, so why get so emotional about Syria? Now if only people in their local areas would get scientifically active on issues like school places, derelict commercial premises, inadequate library services, surly service towards clients at medical clinics and welfare offices, quality of streets and roads, rubbish collection services...
by W. Finnerty Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:56
'Barack Obama has filed a formal request seeking authorization from legislators to launch a "limited" strike on Syria, in response to its government’s alleged use of chemical weapons. The president said the proposed strike was not "time-sensitive".'
by Felix Quigley - www.4international.me Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:21
Obama is through and through Muslim Brotherhood...as is SWP Ireland
by W. Finnerty Fri Aug 30, 2013 18:44
"President Obama could well consider a military strike in Syria despite the British Parliament rejecting a motion authorizing the UK’s involvement in the conflict."
by T Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:38
RT is reporting that a ex British Navy chief clearly knows that the Assad government didn't carry out the Chemical Attack and is likely aware it was carried out by the rebels as a provocation, although given his position he can't go that far ....
by Felix Quigley - www.4international.me Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:05
According to the Zionist pro-Israeli writer based in the US Ken Timmerman in the Daily Worker it was a carefully planned plot that is now coming undone as US plans a strike then scrambles to provide the evidence. Very similar to Srebrenica and Racak in Yugoslavia that led to months of bombing. That led to extension of NATO power into the Balkans. One of the vehicles was www.debka.com and I personally on 4international disputed their story and pointed to www.debka.com having become an organ or conduit for US Intelligence.
by W. Finnerty Fri Aug 30, 2013 09:35
Comment from "ChameleonThe13":
by Turas Thu Aug 29, 2013 23:58
‘In its weekend supplement devoted to geopolitics French daily Le Monde published 8 March, 2013 a report entitled “Syrie : à Atmé, entre révolution et désenchantement” – “Syria: Atme, between revolution and disenchantment”- Christophe Ayad, a regular embedded journalist with NATO’s mercenary forces in Syria, reports on the mixture of despair and chaos that reigns in rebel controlled territory. One of the rebels tells the French reporter that “three former soldiers of the Irish military elite” provided training to Syrian rebels. It is claimed the Irish soldiers were acting as “independent mercenaries”. These “former soldiers of the Irish military elite” are acting in violation of international law.’
by JoeMc Thu Aug 29, 2013 18:59
Is this being reported anywhere else ?
by Felix Quigley - www.4international.me Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:29
See video. I am afraid you must view this video
by Felix Quigley - www.4international.me Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:11
My experience of the events in Yugoslavia in the 1990s is that the UN is a tool of NATO. The US is based on the recruitment of Nazis post 1945, see link of book Blowback below. All flowery resolutions are of no concern whatsoever when naked power takes over. This NATO, really the US with the EU Israel and other countries like Australia in tow, are showing its relationship with the UN every day. It uses the UN as a puppet. NATO asks for inspectors to go in to investigate shells if any, then Biden, Kerry and Hague say we know anyway without the UN Investigation. Mr Finnerty you need to concentrate what happens in the world, not about past resolutions. That time is past. We are in a new era, one of very deep crisis in the capitalist system. Your emphasis on resolution disarms people.
by W. Finnerty Wed Aug 28, 2013 09:19
PREAMBLE
by fred Wed Aug 28, 2013 07:04
T.
by T Tue Aug 27, 2013 23:26
This interview is of a French activist. Ayssar Midani, who has been in Syria for quite sometime and talks about massacres early on carried out by the rebels and how the government has been trying to protect the population from the murderous attacks of these fanatics. She also claims of satellite evidence proving that the attack was not launched by government officials, and the likely consequences of a US-led strike on the country.
http://www.corbettreport.com/mp3/2013-08-27%20Ayssar%20Midani.mp3
by T Tue Aug 27, 2013 21:21
This was reported today by Voice of Russia
by W. Finnerty Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:43
Reply to Felix Quigley - www.4international.me at Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:21 ...
by Felix Quigley - www.4international.me Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:21
Mr Finnerty
by W. Finnerty Tue Aug 27, 2013 09:49
"UK gathers warplanes, military hardware in Cyprus base near Syria – report"
by JoeMc Tue Aug 27, 2013 02:46
It should be noted that the IAWM has not issued a single statement in the past week . The US and its allies are threatening to launch missiles against Iraq on the basis of similar lies that were used to justify the Iraq invasion. Russia is warning of an extremely dangerous situation arising that could set the Middle East ablaze . Even the BBC website is asking are we on the brink of WW3 , but there's nothing at all on the IAWM website about the increasingly strident threats being made against Syria .
by Felix Quigley - www.4international.me Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:07
I WILL NOT ADVERTISE SUCH VIDEOS
by Felix Quigley - www.4international.me Mon Aug 26, 2013 09:53
"When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4
by Felix Quigley - www.4international.me Mon Aug 26, 2013 09:45
Mike I speak only for myself
by JoeMc Sun Aug 25, 2013 17:17
I'll try to say something about the SWP and Egypt on another thread. But their positions change so quickly..As I said in a previous comment, the SWP uses dialectical sounding mumbo-jumbo to justify adopting a glaringly opposite position whenever their party line becomes impossible to sustain and a complete volte-face is needed . Even in the one sentence you can read diametrically opposed positions stated . This for instance from the SWP’s sister organization in Syria explaining the role of Islamist groups in "the revolution":
by JoeMc Sun Aug 25, 2013 17:02
Up until yesterday, the US and its allied governments were angrily demanding that UN inspectors be given access to the site where 1,300 civilians had been murdered in a chemical attack.
by Mike Novack Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:49
Felix,
by Felix Quigley - www.4international.me Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:15
Mike writes
by Felix Quigley - www.4international.me Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:05
Joem
by Turing Sun Aug 25, 2013 00:28
The SWP have hosted statements by the Egyptian Revolutionary Socialists. I carry no torch for the SWP but I am interested in what Egyptian Socialists have to say. The ERS oppose both the Military Junta and the MB, they are against any return of Morsi. I support them on that.
by JoeMc Sat Aug 24, 2013 18:51
by Jow Mc Sat Aug 24, 2013 15:24
A link here to a breaking news report on Iran's Press TV , which claims that Syrian soldiers have uncovered chemicals in tunnels that were being used by "rebels".
by Joe Mc Sat Aug 24, 2013 14:04
I don’t know whether or not Turing is aware of the fact that the IAWM still features fawning videos dedicated to the CIA mercenary Mahdi al Harati on its website. Is it any wonder ? ISO linked groups that run steering committees that run anti-war groups in the West have over the past two years consistently fed us pro-Western propaganda dressed up with left verbiage about a revolution that is supposed to be taking place in Syria . The once anti-imperialist ,anti-war left is nowadays saying precisely the same things about the “dictatorial Syrian regime” that the right- wing, pro-imperialist warmongers are saying about it .The Syrian regime is so nasty for them that the ISO can still this week refer to the “symbolic” acts of “minor cannibalism” committed by a "legitimate opponent" who had been “driven crazy” by the numerous war crimes that Assad committed against the Syrian people . When openly pro-interventionists and so-called non-interventionists agree that Assad is the very sort of monster who relishes murdering his own people you don't need much evidence to point the finger of blame at the regime for committing the latest atrocity.
by Mike Novack Sat Aug 24, 2013 14:03
"There has to be a big struggle for leadership inside the Jewish movement and Jews must seek out the truth about these nerve gas attacks. This can only be done in a struggle against opportunist Jewish leaders. Netanyahu and the present Jewish leaders do not represent the true interests of the Jews."
by Felix Quigley - www.4international.me Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:23
http://4international.me/2013/08/24/we-think-that-us-br...acks/
by Turing Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:54
The report of a chemical weapons attack in the eastern suburbs of Damascus has been seized upon by the Western powers and their regional allies as the pretext to push for direct military intervention.
by T Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:31
When these things happen it takes time to figure out what is going on and collect the evidence. Today Voice of Russia reports that: |
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Jump To Comment: 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1At the time of the September attacks , articles such as this one questioned the war narrative being peddled by the western media and by much of the Western left , which said that the sarin attack had been ordered by Syria's President Asasad . The Syrian government said at the time that the attack was a false flag operation carried out by Syrian rebels to give America justification for launching outright war on Syria . Russia reached similar conclusions .
Investigative reporter Seymour M. Hersh in last weekend's London Review of Books cited information provided by current and former US intelligence and military officials saying that months before the Ghouta attack American intelligence agencies had already produced a series of highly classified reports which, had they been published at the time of the Ghouta attack , would have given credence to Syria's claims of innocence . The CIA's classified information established that the al-Nusra Front, a jihadi group affiliated with al-Qaida, had mastered the mechanics of creating sarin and was capable of manufacturing it in quantity.” When the attack occurred in September al-Nusra should have been a suspect, but the administration cherry-picked intelligence to justify a strike against Assad.”
Whose sarin?
Seymour M. Hersh
http://www.lrb.co.uk/2013/12/08/seymour-m-hersh/whose-sarin
Barry Grey writes on wsws today:
“Hersh’s revelations provide insider proof of what was already obvious to any impartial and moderately informed observer—that the war propaganda about a Syrian government gas attack was a tissue of lies intended to provide a pretext for military aggression and regime-change. “
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/10/pers-d10.html
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"Lavrov: US pressuring Russia into passing UN resolution on Syria allowing military force"
“Our American partners are starting to blackmail us: ‘If Russia does not support a resolution under Chapter 7, then we will withdraw our support for Syria’s entry into the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW). This is a complete departure from what I agreed with Secretary of State John Kerry',” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told Channel 1's Sunday Time program.
“Our partners are blinded by an ideological mission for regime change,” said Lavrov. “They cannot admit they have made another mistake.”
“There’s only an attempt to grasp a straw, and turn a blind eye to the fact that the world is changing and becoming multipolar,” Lavrov concluded.
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All of the above excerpts are from the following www location:
http://rt.com/news/us-russia-syria-resolution-pressure-202/
(Published time: September 22, 2013 09:48)
Related E-mail dated September 18th 2013 to Chief Justice Denham:
" ... global criminals gone berserk ..."
http://www.humanrightsireland.com/ChiefJusticeSusanDenh...l.htm
In a report from Press TV, they say there was:
Solid evidence from within the intelligence community confirms that the US, Britain and France knew of the August 21 Sarin attacks in advance. More evidence, including intercepted emails, show that top Pentagon intelligence officials were actively involved in planning the attacks.
It appears the leaked emails were obtained from Russian sources and the unredacted emails are available on the internet and they indicate this goes to the highest levels in the US army.
They also point out that Syria itself has it own leaked documents namely one from British Defense. Quoting from the report:
In January 2013, documents from Britain Defense, specifically from their Business Development Manager, David Goulding (dgoulding@britamdefense.com), outlined plans made in concert with the government of Qatar to launch false-flag chemical attacks and blame them on the Syrian government.
This is the text of the email, dated Christmas Day, 2012. It and thousands of others have been cleansed from the Internet and every attempt has been made to discredit them:
“Phil, We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear the idea is approved by Washington. We’ll have to deliver a CW (chemical weapon) to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record.
Frankly, I don’t think it’s a good idea, but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion?
Kind regards
David”
Goulding was communicating with Britam founder Phillip Leonard Doughty. (DOB 13 Aug 1953)
There is no proof Britam accepted the deal but, in light of recent events, those who claim the idea is a conspiracy theory must accept the fact that over 200 members of the US Congress believe the same thing.
But it gets worse because the same report also highlights changes in the nuclear command and that "two nuclear wings have been relocated and put directly under White House command while over 2000 nuclear weapons have been illegally moved, stored now in an old submarine base." These sort of moves are unprecedented because for the whole duration of the Cold War, the system of control for nuclear weapons was extremely tightly controlled.
The Press TV reports says: Few are aware, but the United States and Russia are on “high nuclear alert” since the “missile training” incident in the Mediterranean. -where the "missile training" incident refers to the one where a number of weeks ago Russia apparently intercepted a US missile fired at Syria. It is not clear whether it was a cruise missile or ballistic missile -the latter being very very difficult to shoot down. But the incident was a line in the sand for Russia, saying an attack on Syria is an attack on Russia.
So unknown to all of us the two Superpowers are actually are nuclear alert for the past few weeks -at DEFCON 3 apparently.
The Press TV article states:
Over 200 members of Congress acknowledge that our own government has been involved in false-flag terrorism. Even radio personalities from the extreme right now openly admit that we are supporting al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria.
Incidently the Press TV article was written by Gordon Duff is a Marine Vietnam veteran, a combat infantryman, and Senior Editor at Veterans Today.
Full article at the link below
I've emailed the Irish Anti-War Movement regarding the disturbing link T provided. I sent a seperate email asking whether or not the group shares the assessment of Western governments in regard to Syrian responsibility for the attack .
"I'm contacting the IAWM steering committee to find out its views on last month's massacre at Ghouta - whether or not the committee believes the chemical attack was carried out by the Syrian regime. As I'm sure you know, there have been many claims ,including from the Russian government , that the attack was the work of opponents of the Assad regime attempting to bring about direct US military intervention .
"In opposing an attack on Syria ,the IAWM rightly asks us to « remember Iraq « . I remember that before the attack on Iraq in 2003 , the anti-war movement in Ireland rigouously opposed the lies told by Bush in support of war ,particularly the fabricated intelligence reports about mobile biological-weapons laboratories and yellow-cake uranium from Niger.The fact that the IAWM has not issued a statement on the propaganda that is blaming the Ghouta attack on the Syrian government gives the impression that it concurs with the Western assessment".
thanks for pointing out that discrepancy, FFS.
This rushed translation of a report from the International Institute for Peace, Justice and Human Rights (www.ipj.ch) is of a report into an independent investigated the chemical weapons attack in the town of East Ghouta on August 21, 2013, as well as the video media purporting to document these events.
The findings and evidence of ISTEAMS' initial report strongly refute the claims by US--UK--Saudi-- Turkish--Israeli and other Western interventionists. These claims are largely based on video evidence of this mass murder produced by Syrian insurgents and terrorists. For this reason, a rush translation of ISTEAMS' working document on the Ghouta massacre and related atrocities and child abductions in Latakia, Syria, has been produced to inform international public opinion and do justice to the innocent victims of these crimes. The draft report includes a Name List of abducted children and women (pp. 45--50) who may have been massacred by the Syrian insurgents who perpetrated the Ghouta outrage.
The FULL report is in the attached PDF file
In the image taken from the report, it shows a specific instance where a photo used by the CIA backed rebels claiming to be victims of the chemical attack is in fact the original photo of victims in the Adawiha Square in Cario, Egypt.
What the report is showing is that there has been all kinds of manipulations done and they and their backers have used the most sinister and morally disgusting techniques to utterly and callously distort the truth of whatever really happened and they have clearly killed people in the pursuit of their efforts
Full report documenting disturbing twisting of facts 15.59 Mb