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Minutes From Launch of South East Social Forum
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news report
 Wednesday July 16, 2003 19:13 by Roy Hassey - South East Social Forum 086-3274015
Minutes From Launch of South East Social Forum Minutes From Launch of South-East Social Forum
ATGWU Union Hall, Keyser Street, Tuesday 15th July 2003
Minutes taken by Roy Hassey: 086-3274015 royhassey@eircom.net
In Attendance:
Seamus Cashman Roy Hassey: Socialist Workers Party
Declan Doyle Ben Nutty: Green Party
Caroline Blaney Brian Quinlan: SIPTU
Una Ryan John Cloono: ATGWU
Breda Fell: ATGWU Aidan O’Halloran: Socialist Workers Party
Ciara Doyle St. John O Donnabhain
John Kiely: Community Workers Co-op/Sinn Fein Dick Roche: Waterford Council of Trade Unions
Dan Kelly: Globalise Resistance Jim D’Arcy: TUI
Samantha Richardson Joan Quirke: ATGWU
Paul Flynn Yvette Flynn: Globalise Resistance
Introduction
Yvette Flynn of Globalise Resistance convened the forum and spoke about where the concept of Social Forums emerged, from the World Social Forum in Porto Allegre to the European Social Forum in Florence and the Irish Social Forum in Dublin. She spoke about the growth of the international anti-capitalist movement and how that had led to the success of the anti-war movement and February 15th.
Paul Flynn gave a report back from the European Social Forum in Florence last November where he took part in a million strong anti-war march and many meetings and seminars at the forum. He also encouraged everyone to come to Dublin in October for the World Economic Forum events.
Aidan O’Halloran, a Ballybeg Community Worker and member of the SWP reported back from the second all-island Irish Social Forum get-together on July 6th. He spoke about how the ISF is an attempt to bring together civil society and the wider left to challenge the negative effect neo-liberal economic policies are having on democracy, community, human rights, workers rights, the environment and public services. He also pointed out that Ireland is the most globalised economy in the world and as a result has the second highest level of poverty in the western world.
Roy Hassey of the Socialist Workers Party spoke about the World Economic Forum and the plans around their summit in Dublin in October. He outlined the four events in October: The alternative summit on co-operation, the carnival for global justice, the protest against the WEF on O20 and the blockade of Dublin Castle also on O20. He explained the composition of the WEF and some of the policies they perpetuate such as privatisation of public services, unlimited free trade and corporate control of the economy. He spoke about how the Irish government is one of the WEF’s best pupils in the implementation of neo-liberalism and encouraged everyone to the October organising meeting in Dublin the following Sunday. He said the decisions emanating from the WEF will adversely affect every person in the country and therefore we had a duty to oppose it.
Discussion
Una asked for how long the ISF had been meeting and who was involved. Roy read out a list of the organisations that were present at the launch of the ISF on July 6th.
John Kiely spoke about the importance of getting people from outside Waterford involved and contacting groups in Wexford, Kilkenny and Carlow and encouraged everyone to contact as many people as they could and invite them to the next meeting. Dick agreed with making the SESF as broad and diverse as possible.
Paul asked how we intend to advertise O20 and the SESF and talked about how October was an opportunity for people to re-enfranchise themselves. He also said the experience of the ESF in Florence proved that there were millions of people out there who were against the neo-liberal agenda.
John Cloono spoke about how October was an opportunity to bring the spirit of anti-capitalism to Ireland and bring together the many groups and people who oppose neo-liberalism.
Una raised the question of violence on O20. Aidan responded that the best way to avoid violence was to maximise the numbers on the protests. Roy pointed out that the protest and blockade would be strongly stewarded, hopefully by trade unions.
Breda spoke about the importance of having trade union involvement in the ISF and O20 and that she would be working through the ATGWU to encourage people to get involved.
Dick agreed with Breda on trade union involvement and also spoke about the importance of relating the policies of the WEF with people on the ground.
Seamus asked about the international mobilisation for O20. Roy pointed out that with all the major anti-capitalist protests across the world, 95% of the people involved were local. Yvette stressed the importance of our role in getting people in the south-east involved in the ISF and O20. Seamus pointed out that in order for O20 to be successful it must be seen as an Irish mobilisation rather then an international one.
Syngan spoke about using Indymedia as an alternative to the mainstream media to publicise the forum and the need to connect with rural campaigns and groups as well as urban ones.
Decisions
It was decided that the structure of the South East Social Forum should mirror that of the Irish Social Forum, so four working groups were established to organise for O20 and beyond. Volunteers were asked for each group.
Communication Working Group
Paul Flynn 086-8581915
Dick Roche 087-7523464 dick_roche@hotmail.com
Yvette Flynn 087-9473556
Seamus Cashman 087-8123562 seamus.cashman@landregistry.ie
Declan Doyle 087-9656692 declan.doyle@landregistry.ie
October Working Group
Roy Hassey 086-3274015 royhassey@eircom.net
John Kiely 087-7910991 kielyjohn@oceanfree.net
Ciara Doyle 087-1274899 ciaradoyle@yahoo.com
Joan Quirke 086-1071647
Outreach Working Group
Aidan O’Halloran 051-374081 aidan_oh@hotmail.com
David Cullinane 086-3725152 sfwaterford@eircom.net (nominated by John Kiely)
St. John O Donnabhain 087-7548783 freeflowing@wildmail.com
Brian Quinlan 087-9170666
(Una and Breda committed to contacting people in a personal capacity)
Finance Working Group
Deferred until next meeting
It was agreed that a leaflet be produced for distribution around the Spraoi festival. It was also agreed that the three groups would meet next week and report to the second meeting of the SESF which will be on Tuesday 29th July.
The Communications Working Group will meet on Monday 21st July in the ATGWU Union Hall Keyser Street @ 8.00pm
The October Working Group will meet on Monday 21st July in the ATGWU Union Hall Keyser Street @ 7.00pm
The Outreach Working Group: date and venue TBA
Everyone is invited to attend any of the meetings other than the people nominated above.
Upcoming Events
Co-ordinating meetings for working groups organising activities around the World Economic Forum Summit in October 2003
WEF O20
Working Groups first round of meetings
Sunday July 20th, Teachers Club, 36 Parnell Square, Dublin 1, First Floor
12.00am to 3.00pm
12.00am – 1.00pm: The Co-Operation Counter Summit Working Group
12.00am – 1.00pm: The O20 Blockade Alliance
12.00am – 2.00pm: The Carnival for Global Economic and Social Justice Working Group
1.00pm – 2.00pm: The March Against the WEF Working Group
2.00pm – 3.00pm: Joint meeting between groups
Next Meeting of South East Social Forum:
Tuesday 29th July, 8.00pm, ATGWU Union Hall, Keyser Street, Waterford.
Contact Yvette Flynn for more information:
087-9473556
grwaterford@hotmail.com
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4well done to all concerned - great to see it getting of the ground. I shall add your emails to the all-island ISF e-list.
Roy, I mailed you some contacts a while back involved with the Waterford Community Forums. Any luck there?
Well, best of luck to one and all in getting the community, environmental, development etc sectors on board.
I have re-posted the summary of the 2ND ALL-ISLAND ISF GET-TOGETHER below in order to clafiry how things stand for October. Remember - the smaller workshops/discussion groups of the Co-Operation Counter Summit, the blockade, the carnival, and the March against the WEF, ARE NOT being organised by the ISF.
anyway best of luck to all,
later,
Barry
SUMMARY OF DECISIONS OF THE 2ND ALL-ISLAND ISF GET-TOGETHER:
1. The existing Irish Social Forum (ISF) core Working Groups (the ISF Building and Finance Working Group, ISF Communications Working Group, the ISF Outreach Working Group, and the ISF Topics and Principles Working Group) will continue to exist (see section above: What Conclusions Did We Come To About The Long-Term Process Of The Irish Social Forum) and undertake their broad functions and connect with the different groups where necessary and appropriate in order that the ISF would -present- the weekend as a series of events, though web postings, and possibly leaflets, pamphlets and posters.
2. The core Working Groups of the Irish Social Forum (see above) will host just the main meetings/presentations, not all the events, of the ISF Co-Operation Counter-Summit of Fri. 17th to Sun. 19th October 2003.
3. A Co-Operation Counter-Summit Working Group will be established to organise other details, meetings, workshops, discussion groups, dialogues etc for this October ISF Co-Operation Counter-Summit.
4. The ISF does not endorse any of the four main elements of the weekend prior to and during the WEF Competition Summit.
5. At the end of any web-postings, publications etc a single list of participant organisations would be included with a disclaimer. [Disclaimer says: The ISF is a non-executive body and the activities organised during the Social Forum do not necessarily reflect the views of the individual affiliates and participants.]
6. A Carnival for Global Economic and Social Justice Working Group will be established to organise the carnival of Sun. Oct. 19th 2003.
7. A March Against the WEF Working Group will be established to organise the March of 6.00pm. Mon. 20th 2003.
8. A group called the O-20 Blockade Alliance will be established to organise the mass civil disobedience of the morning of Mon. 20th 2003.
9. Organisations and groups are responsible for their own activity and decision whether or not to join/endorse any of the activities.
10. Each group and working group would organise the different events in all its aspects.
end of doc.
- written by Barry Finnegan
- on behalf of the Irish Social Forum Communication Working Group.
Contacts: Isf_Commtalk-Subscribe@Topica.Com; john.finnegan3@mail.dcu.ie; 01-8741223.
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it's great to get people mobilised in the south east.
On the other hand, couldn't you have got somebody who wasn't in GR/SWP to speak? This creates an impresion of front-building. Even if you have the best intentions, it isn't a great way of convincing people that it is genuinely a broad alliance.
And when "Roy pointed out that the protest and blockade would be strongly stewarded, hopefully by trade unions", couldn't he have just pointed out that there were no groups in Ireland advocating violence and no history of it in the movement here. Why not at least try to counter the media's lies and scaremongering, rather than starting to line up parts of the movement against each other.
stewarding is necessary on large marches to keep everyone going in the right direction and to act as a buffer between cops and demonstrators. For whatever reason, very few parties or groups bother with it or know how to do it properly. The stewarding on Feb 15th by the Anti-War Movement was shambolic, stewards do not go around with collection buckets.
Trade Unions and the Shinners are the only people who take it seriously.
Burly proletarian steelworkers from the unions disciplining middle class anarchist hippies, can somebody get this on video please! It'll be worth millions in the underground trot-porn market!