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Tuesday April 12, 2005 14:00
by Terry - NUIG Ecology Society (personal capacity)
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From: A group of concerned individuals in Mayo and Galway:
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6[ Cut and paste of comment previously posted by John replaced by URL below. - IMC Ed]
John you'd be more convincing if you offered some evidence of having read the article rather than coming out with the old and tired media/IBEC line about progress.
As far as I can see there are three main objections
1. We are being ripped off by the terms Shell have been given
2. The current project design is unsafe in particular in the location it is planned
3. The environmental consequences for the current location will be serious.
These claims could be false but you have made no attempt to argue this - instead you treat us to a lecture on how wonderful progress is. Yet progress as in the 'Glen of the Downs' simply meant big profits for developers who had bought land in the Arklow to Gorey corridor and two hour commutes for Dublin workers.
John has posted similar comment to several, all?, Shell in Mayo stories now and NEVER responded to peoples' reply to his argument..then gone to the next story and out with same line again. John you wouldn't scare a hobbit.
John - "That gas will have to travel over a much longer pipeline to get to Ireland than would gas from a few miles offshore. What's environmentally-friendly about that?"
you could reply simply by cutting and pasting from previous articles:
"This is an unprecedented development, normally up stream pipelines of untreated gas do not go over land.
The gas pipeline also has adjoining pipelines carrying hydraulic fluid, cleansing acids, and a waste pipe.
There will also be electric cables.
This is a high pressure pipeline, 345 bar pressure for the gas, 610 bar pressure for the acids and hydraulic fluid.
It is untreated, that is, odourless, without the added smell for detecting leaks.
This is not the normal run of the mill gas pipeline.
In Kinsale the gas is refined at sea, piped ashore at a much lower pressure and odorised.
The biggest Bord Gais pipelines, in the so-called Transmission network, bringing the gas cross-country or overseas, run at 16 – 70 bar pressure.
This development is so unprecedented the relevant legislation and regulations assumes its non-existence, that is, it applies to off shore upstream pipelines and to on land ones of around the levels of pressure used by Bord Gais.
The large pressure is necessary as the pipeline is actually pumping the gas straight out of the field, normally this process takes place completely at sea"
Or:
"At the same time you have what is an unprecedented high pressure pipeline running through the villages of Glengad, Rossport and Gortacragher and well this pipeline; the difficulty here at the moment is to get the message out to people who have only a passing knowledge of this, this pipeline is not like the Bord Gais pipelines.
It is in private ownership and the pressure of gas inside it is totally different and the pressure inside it can be up to four times greater than that of the biggest Bord Gais pipelines in the country. You normally have one bar pressure bringing the gas into houses in towns. You have transmission pressure of up to 70 bar in the big Bord Gais pipelines, this pressure in this pipeline is between 150 bar and 345 bar, at the maximum that is 5,000 pounds per square inch pressure."
- and this last bit from an article John actually posted a comment to.
Now he will not reply to this post, but he will post a comment to the next story on Shell again having either not read the argument contained in what he is commenting on or having done so but pretending to have not.
(1) Claim the gas is to be exported.
(2) Fact the gas can be refined and treated at sea..as is standard practise.
hello everyone who was up at the solidarity gathering last weekend. This is really an envirnomental and human rights crisis. I have just heard that shell are stepping in quickly and the locals are opposing by not moving from the locaton shell are attempting to begin the pipeline. Bravo to them, but this is crazy. What can we do now to help??