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Friday June 09, 2006 11:22 by Sean Crudden - impero sean at impero dot iol dot ie Jenkinstown, Dundalk, Co Louth. 087 9739945
Stigma and Isolation Mental illness and the treatment of mental illness have become conflated in the minds of lay people and professional alike. It is an astute practitioner who can distinguish the effects of treatment from the effects of illness when they look at a mental patient. In my humble opinion standard treatment contributes more to stigma and isolation of the mental patient than any underlying illness he or she may suffer from. In the "On the Couch" feature (a regular feature) in last Tuesday’s Irish Times Dr John Owens was asked the stock question: |
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3" For example, it is a well-known fact that people who have been discharged from mental hospital are at a greatly increased risk of suicide in the days immediately following their discharge. "
What is your point? That they should be kept in permanently?
Sean, you hate psychiatrists and the Irish Mental Health System. I am prepared to accept that you got a raw deal but that does not mean that all psychiatrists are evil. For the vast majority of psychiatric patients psychiatric care works. Isnt that something worth keeping?
Why do you want to drag everything down? Just accept that for some people medication works. Dont rage against them, dont try and prevent them getting help. Thats not going to solve your problems. But there are many people out there who would commit suicide if it wasnt for their medication.
When you have studied medicene for 12 years I'll consider you qualified to give advice on my problems. In the meantime, analyse yourself.
One of the problems with the health system regarding people suffering from depression and other related problems is that there are lots of vested interests making lots of cash out of antidepressants such as effexor (venlafaxine)(made by wyeth) , prozac(fluoxetine) (made by eli lilly) and paxil (made by good old GSK!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Lilly_and_Company
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyeth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GlaxoSmithKline
These meds are widely perscribed in Ireland at the drop of a hat. They are even being marketed to address minor problems with children.
Research has been suppressed, university positions have been denied to unco-operative physicians who speak out against the pharmaceutical industries activities. make no mistake, our modern misery is big business.
There is increased risk of suicide linked with taking SSRI meds. I would advise all potential takers of antidepressants to make good use of the internet and become well informed before resorting to taking such meds.
common sense says that its all very well if you target a chemical to exactly the part of the brain where there seems to be a specific problem (assuming of course you fully understand the mechanism in the first place!!) but swallowing a pill whose contents slosh around YOUR WHOLE BRAIN will inevitably cause other unwanted or unpredicted effects in other parts of the brain you never meant to target.
For a more professional opinion (from someone who has more than 12 years of medical education !!!) on the realities of antidepressants and the related behaviour of big pharmaceutical companies I suggest you Google "dr david healy"
and by the way, the fact that someone is aligned to an educational institution for a certain length of time is no guarantee that they will provide good unbiased information. Large companies frequently recruit such people into the fold with promises of lucrative posts and research grants. Academic corporate Shills are well known animals in the fields (sic) of GM and nuclear energy and unsurprisingly, the pharmaceutical industries
here are a few random related links :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venlafaxine
http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/effexor-ADF.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,435126....html
http://www.pharmapolitics.com/feb2healy.html
Dear Depressed but Happy
It may seem that I am giving advice but if I am it is not my intention. If you need advice I am certain that you have your own sources which you feel confident about. I follow professional advice myself. However there is no need to be censorious or angry when I try to discuss the mental health system and stigma in particular. Even a cursory glance through the web-sites whose links are given in the second comment to my article show that I am not alone in my scepticism. However I hope no-one is going to get alarmed or do anything sudden. I don't think any of us is going to drop dead right away.
The link I am giving with this comment is to an award-winning site dealing with the question of stigma - in the conventional way. It is a useful site to try to get to understand what establishment thinking is today on the topic of stigma.