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category national | housing | news report author Thursday June 22, 2006 14:40author by Socialist Report this post to the editors

Higgins told to ' go away' in heated debate

Taoiseach Bertie Ahern described Socialist Party TD Joe Higgins as a " failed person" and told him to "he will soon go away" during heated exchanges on the cost of housing.

Mr Higgins said that house prices had increased on the Taoiseach's watch. "He failed cataclysmically to stop the unbridled speculation by developers and house builders. Of course, that was deliberate. The matter goes all the way back to the devil's pact made between Fianna Fáil and house builders and speculators in the 1960s. They bought the party's councillors, who in turn corrupted planning in Dublin, and perhaps other areas, and created the nightmare we now have.

"They got everything they wanted. They bought the party's former leader, who the Taoiseach eulogised unstintingly last Friday. The VIP pen in the Donnycarney church was like a major house builders' convention.

"Oddly enough, the politicians were probably the poorest people there, with the exception of some of the Taoiseach's colleagues who are publicans, landlords or dabblers in hairdressing salons in Moscow for the Russian nouveau riche."

Mr Ahern said that about 20 new homes were produced annually per 1,000 of the population compared to an EU average of five. The State was providing houses for young people at four times the average rate.

He asked Mr Higgins if he wished to drag the State back to a time when people had no salaries and no jobs. "He has a failed ideology and the most hopeless policy pursued by any nitwit. He is a failed person who was rejected and whose political philosophy has been rejected.

"He will not pull people back into the failed old policies he dreamed up in south Kerry when he was a young fellow. Now go away."

Earlier, Mr Higgins said that the house price index made chilling reading for tens of thousands of young working people in in need of homes.

"In March 1996, the average price of a home in Dublin was €82,000. This year, 10 years later, it is €384,000, an increase of €300,000. That represents a shocking €30,000 increase per year, the equivalent of the current average industrial wage each year for 10 years. Prices outside Dublin have increased pro rata.

"Is there any appreciation by the Government of the dire situation facing young people who earn the average industrial wage and need a home, or any recognition of the hardship of young parents who are saddled with 30- and 40-year mortgages?

"Are members of the Government so cosseted by their massive salaries that they are oblivious to the suffering, hardship and desperation?"

Mr Higgins said that speculators were buying houses in working class communities left, right and centre. "A frightening percentage of homes in hitherto stables communities are now rented. Stable communities are being replaced by transient communities, by people who are forced into the laps of landlords, such as migrant workers and those on rent supplement."

Mr Ahern said that house price increases were primarily driven by the increase in demand for housing. "Now that we have stopped mass emigration by working class people, unemployed trade unionists and those who lived in working class communities but had to seek refuge in Australia, Canada, the United States and Britain, people are again living in the working-class areas which the deputy and I represent."

author by pro bertiepublication date Thu Jun 22, 2006 19:48author address author phone Report this post to the editors

about time joe higgins was given a lash, but you didn't publish it all, he called him a nitwit

author by Pro Joepublication date Thu Jun 22, 2006 20:18author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Hard luck son! It was Bertie who looked like a fool. The Irish Times reporter commented that Joe Higgins is the only TD who can really get under his skin; he tries so hard to be a nice guy and absorb all the criticism without breaking his stride, but this time he flipped. Like McDowell with a Dub accent

author by Jerry Corneliuspublication date Thu Jun 22, 2006 20:22author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Another journalist told me that iho Berties was way ott and would have to apologise.

author by bridpublication date Thu Jun 22, 2006 21:32author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Bertie is behaving like a spoilt, bad mannered child.
He is not fit to be taoiseach.
Give us honest honourable Joe Higgins anyday.

author by belfast - socialistpublication date Thu Jun 22, 2006 22:02author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Saw a bit of it on rte last night, what a laugh.

Good on you Joe, keep at him.

author by hedgehogpublication date Fri Jun 23, 2006 01:07author address author phone Report this post to the editors

yet he refers to socialism as a failed ideology. Which is it bertie? keep up the good work joe. The current housing situation and the governments collusion with property speculators is nothing short of criminal.

author by Kenno - nonepublication date Fri Jun 23, 2006 16:06author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Joe Higgins was totally right to pin the 300% increase in housing over the last 10 years on Bertie Ahern and his lamentable brother Noel. This whole stinking government is in hoc to developers, rich businessmen and housing profiteers. And they have the cheek to commemorate Michael Davitt!

However, Joe Higgins' contribution on the 'Week in Politics' last Sunday left a lot to be desired. He seemed to be under the illusion that the North of Ireland was advancing to social inclusion and harmony in 1969! He actually believes that Charlie haughey with the help of the IRA stopped this march towards class unity! Come on Joe, get real and educate yourself about the causes of conflict on this island.

It's a classic example of what was always evident in Irish left-wing movements: The ability to support revolutionary and armed movements anywhere in the world except the one 90 miles up the road...

author by Readerpublication date Fri Jun 23, 2006 17:24author address author phone Report this post to the editors

That Bertie was out of order. They did a picture of Bertie as the Hulk and said he shouldn't have slagged off a fellow socialist like that. I think most people of any sense regardless of left or right know that Bertie lost it. Most likely in reaction to Bertie totally misreading the Haughey funeral turnout and non-outpouring of grief.

author by Browser - Internetpublication date Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:09author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I'd just like to actually see it as it happened.

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