Brain Lenihan calls Pavee Point into question.

by Buffer Zone Sun Jul 29, 2007 15:48

"The rest of us who have been paying the taxes for these officious, ideological,
undemocratic and generally pointless quangos will like the sound of it very much.
And who can we thank- Arrivederci Roma'

This is Mr Mac Carthy 'taking on' the NGO's. He calls NGO's quangos.
This man supports Lenihan's little game of taking cash from NGO's to
enforce state policy....
State policy being so squeaky clean and not in need of buffering by human rights
organisations.

Maybe Mac Carthy should check out the Amnesty international site and answer the questions
regarding what an NGO does, why it is necessary and then skip to google and look up:-
HSE-IBEC-NRA:- these are 'unelected quangos' messing with lives.

The maybe he should get some coke and shove it up his officiious little arse.

by Linker Sat Jul 28, 2007 20:18

http://www.paveepoint.ie

Press release on the m50 debacle:- http://www.paveepoint.ie/news/press_july07-12.html

Pavee Point Logo slide

by aristotle Sat Jul 28, 2007 18:15

Pavee Point deals in issues that are inherently political. It must be entitled to put it's point of view, particlarly if that point of view is one which is at odds with majority opinion.

Making the point that the grim life-chances of nomadic societies are entirely the fault of racism within the dominant community (rather than inherent to nomadism and the conservative autocratic anti-woman and education-phobic social mores and attitudes within those communities) is one which Pavee Point is entitled to make in a free and democratic society.

Advocating caution before deportation to Romania is not the same thing as advocating the breach of our immigration laws. Impartiality, accuracy, and balance are not pre-conditions for free speech. The test of our democratic tolerance is our aceptance of the Pavee Points, Youth Defence, Right to Choose, fringe-left and right and other minority groups to voice and advocate their views.

It seems to me that there is far too much readiness everywhere (including in Indymedia.ie) to advocate censorship of those we disagree with - rather than engaging in discussion of the issues.

(One final (peripheral) thought: Romania and Bulgaria should never have been allowed into the EU if the majority of existing EU countries did not accept that heir citizens could be extended the full rights normally enjoyed by EU citizens. Neither should the Baltic States have been allowed in until they had stopped discriminating against their Russian minorities)

by Lenihan Fri Jul 27, 2007 19:27

His department's refusal to properly fund and co-ordinate rights and NGO organisations
is a simple step of continuing the work of his predecessor , Michael Mc Dowell.
People must recognise that right wing governments only seek to serve themselves and the
organisations they represent: The Developers. The Chamber of Commerce and the Crooks
who cream the tax system. Pavee Point has for many years represented the travelling community
in this country, against the most amazingly corrupt and inept state since its founding. When
we witness the repressions on this community and those in the ghettoes we are witnessing
the State's inhumanity. its time to call a halt to the corruption and support those who are
and will continue to lobby for basic rights.
btw- Brian the transposition of the basic rights of the child will require a properly worded
constitutional referendum and will guarantee those rights to the travelling community.
It will not be alone about 'protection'. This state's policies on human rights are as corrupt
as those in the Americas and it cannot all be swept under the carpet. Mr Lenihan gave an
undertaking in Geneva that the communities in this country would have those rights.
Strangely enough , for such a moneyed society- the neanderthal like thickness displayed
in its political representatives beggars belief.