Israeli terrorism strikes again! Does Israel rule the whole wordl?

by King Kai Fri Jan 16, 2009 22:06

Israel i fear will never be at peace, With 200 million arabs surrounding it and all hostile at one time or another even after Hamas is defeated or peace is made with the Palestinians someone else will take their place. Is it any wonder they react like they do. I intend to take a holiday in Israel this year to show my support for its people in the face of such a threat. Long live the state of Israel.

by Reporter12 Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:16

Al Mezan Human Rights have given their figures for the casualties of Slaughter in Gaza. As of two days ago when the over all death toll was estimated at just under a thousand , Al Mezan says that only 137 of those were fighters , the rest of those killed , a staggering 850 (86%), are defenseless civilians.

Projecting those figures to today with the death toll now at 1150 we can extrapolate that 990 of that number are civilians with 160 fighters out of a total of an estimated 17000 - 20000 fighters possibly in the strip.

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10194.shtml

" The Israeli Occupation Forces (IOF) has continued its aggression against the Gaza Strip for the 19th day. Al Mezan Center's monitoring revealed that the IOF has escalated its attacks on civilian targets. Until today, the vast majority of the casualties are non-combatants. Only 13.9 percent of the total casualties were fighters (137 men). According to Al Mezan Center's monitoring, as of 1pm today, the number of Palestinians killed by the IOF during Operation Cast Lead has risen to 979. Of those, 206 were children and 70 were women. Seven of the medical teams members and three journalists were also killed. Moreover, at least 3,527 have been injured, including 760 children and 448 women. "

by Ronan IPSC Fri Jan 16, 2009 09:48

King Kai,

Your numbers and understanding are way off.

Check out this very clear and accurate factsheet, which uses sources that the Israeli government also use, to get some details.

"(11 Jan 2009) How Israel torpedoed the ceasefire to produce a casus belli"

http://www.ipsc.ie/the_issues_factsheets.php

Cheers,
Ronan

by gazasympathiser Fri Jan 16, 2009 00:37

Hamas did not fire 8000 rockets during the ceasefire and are not committed to the destruction of Israel according to Sir Jeremy Greenstock the prominent UK Jewish lawyer and former advisor to Tony Blair Hamas is a national liberation movement.

He also believes that Hamas and the Israelis can learn a lot from the northern peace process and says that Israel broke the ceasefire not Hamas.

by Angry but still reasonable Fri Jan 16, 2009 00:29

In answer to King Kai's "What would you do ..." question: my answer is - I would try to stop the rockets.

And to do that, my first move would not be to fortify the resolve of the attackers by killing and maiming hundreds of their young children, some yet unborn. It would be to find a mediator I trusted to locate the attacker's leaders and try talking to them.

Individually the people of Gaza have nothing left to loose. Every part of their living is being systematically destroyed by a state that is hell bent on removing the need to co-exist with them. That is genocide.

History shows us that this is a strategy that will ultimately destroy the aggressor. The people of Gaza know that, even as they burn and writhe in agony beneath the cruel white phosphorus. Israel, it seems, hasn't yet figured it out.

by Joe 90 Fri Jan 16, 2009 00:21

I would probably kill over 1100 people, over 400 of them children and leave more than 4500 injured - seems like the right answer!!

by dunk Thu Jan 15, 2009 20:19

King Kai,

Anyone on here brave enough to tell me their response to 8000 rockets being fired into west belfast?. All the bleeding hearts who marched in belfast last week supported violence in Northern Ireland for years are now condemning it else were. At this point talking is out of the question as Hamas ultimate aim is the total obliteration of the Jewish state so again i ask if faced with this threat what would be your response?

Firstly, Im not from West Belfast but know the area and some heads a bit, last time up there was @ Divis flats in August...

Anways. First thing in your story is to find out why 8000 rockets were being sent in, for what reasons. After bloody years a ceasefire of sorts was in place, then that was broken by Isreal, not Hamas, Israel, Hamas retaliated (to quote Israeli state website earlier in the war). It has been pointed out by people working hard in the area that Hamas are not seeking the total obliteration of the Jewish state and were approaching a peaceful 2 state solution, when Isreal countered their "Peace offensive". Much of this truth has been covered by Israeli and others propeganda, see below for backup to the claims. I hope this answers your question

1 - A massacre is being carried out in Gaza
2 - Israel broke the cease fire
3- Hamas are willing to agree on 2 state solution along 1967 borders
4 - Israel is using illegal war fare techniques
5 - Israel is blocking independant media into to Gaza to confirm critical issues

To back up these claims, as already done, view other IMC-IE thread:
Irish Protests Against Israeli Attacks on Gaza Escalate
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/90363

by King Kai Thu Jan 15, 2009 19:56

Anyone on here brave enough to tell me their response to 8000 rockets being fired into west belfast?. All the bleeding hearts who marched in belfast last week supported violence in Northern Ireland for years are now condemning it else were. At this point talking is out of the question as Hamas ultimate aim is the total obliteration of the Jewish state so again i ask if faced with this threat what would be your response?

by Reporter12 Thu Jan 15, 2009 19:00

http://www.stoptheism.com/

Right Wing Nutter Website " Stop the ISM" in America calls for targetting of ISM / Free Gaza Activists for assassination with descriptions and Photos.

NEW!!! CAIOHME BUTTERFLY IS TARGET #7 OF ISM IN GAZA

CAIOHME HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY DEPORTED FROM ISRAEL AND IS NOW IN GAZA DOING HER HUMAN SHIELD WORK FOR HAMAS. AN IRISH NATIONAL. HER PASSION IS TO DESTROY ISRAEL AND AID ALL TERRORIST GROPS THAT SEEK TO DO SO. HER HAIR COLOR MAY BE DIFFERENT AS IN THIS PHOTO:
SUPPORTING HAMAS TERRORISTS IN THE EMERALD ISLE IN THE PHOTO AT LEFT, CAIOHME IS NOW IN GAZA WORKING FOR HAMAS.

by Miriam Thu Jan 15, 2009 18:41

http://www.indymedia.ie/article/90581