O'Bomba & Fat Bess Not Wanted in Ireland

by cropbeye Sat Apr 09, 2011 00:43

I think trying to organise and anti Obama vist now is a bit pointless.

The who event is just a tourist gimmick and an apeal of the Pres to voters in Pennsylvania and Ohio.

The number turning out would be tiny

and could be dismissed as contradicting the silent magority.

Since bessie Windsor will be here for most of 4 days as opposed to 5 hours

I think there is more potential there. I really think there is a resovoir of people ready to show their heads who see through

this bullshit of us becomming a maturing cultural poitique and the cow towing and back slappin in the media.

by francis hughes Sat Apr 09, 2011 16:38

Great to see people putting the two imperialists in the one pot where they deserve to be and hopefully protests will be mounted for both. Is it only me or are some on the left a bit watery in regards Lizzys one. are they afriad of been seein to be 'nationalist' in their understanding of the word or as upsetting loyalists or something. THe two of these are war criminals that epotomise a lot of whats wrong with the world and need to be reminded of that and any anti-war or anti-imperialists worth their salt in my eyes should be out for both. Are we afraid of being lumped in with 'the media bogey men- the DISSIDENTS' if we turn up at the queen one. We ALL need to be out there on the airwaves in the battle of ideas that will be watered down with the ass licking and post colonial madness out there. Can we mount a decent united campaign against these or are we just goin to roll over and take it again. These visits could be stopped or severely disrupted, is the will out there to do it???

by fudgepacked Sat Apr 09, 2011 17:00

Alas it looks like mostly we're going to bend over and take it francis :-(

But it's only sloppy seconds after what we have just bent over and taken from the German banks

Plus ca change

by Maureen Sat Apr 09, 2011 18:43

This video contains salient facts on why Windsor's provocative visit has to be opposed on principle. On another matter - our treasonous government reducing us to debt slaves - Fintan O'Toole illuminates us on why there is a present lack of credible opposition to the imminent visits: What the great and the good really mean when they use the word is not that the financial fallout is manageable. It is that the people are manageable. The assumption is that you can squeeze health and education, do almost nothing to create jobs, lock the economy into a downward spiral of cuts and depression and that there will be no long-term political or social consequence. Underpinning all the gambles on Nama and the banks is the ultimate gamble – on the infinite masochism and/or infinite gullibility of the Irish people.

This March, on cue, Kenny heaped further insult on the "infinite masochism and/or infinite gullibility of the Irish people" with a blatant lie: On 30th March of this year, Taoiseach Enda Kenny said in the Dáil (Irish parliament) that "The President [of the U.S.] was grateful for the opportunity to thank us for allowing transit through Shannon Airport and the use of the facility there in accordance with the United Nations’ agreement and resolution." He was responding to a question from Joe Higgins TD (Socialist Party/United Left Alliance) who asked him if President Obama haid said anything to the Taoiseach about the use of Shannon Airport by the US Air Force, and the facilitation by the Irish State of the US armies of occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan, during their meeting on March 17th. It seems nobody has told our Irish government leader that the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were not authorised by United Nations resolutions. They were illegal. (Shannonwatch).

Akin to "Every country gets the fascism it deserves" and Noam Chomsky's description of Ahern, then Taoiseach, as "Bush's shoe shine boy," every masochistic, spinelessly gullible, ovine people get the humiliation they deserve (through the visits).?

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Protest the Queen

by Aogán O Fearghail Sat Apr 09, 2011 20:07

If, as it's said; pride comes before a fall, what then for a prideless people, but only further masochism, denial and abasement through lickspittling the bloody feet of clay of an egregious war criminal and calling it céad míle fáilte.?

by Naomi Sat Apr 09, 2011 20:40

Michael, I like it: Sheep deserve the kindness of wolves which brings to mind Morgan Kelly's prescient November 8, 2010, Irish Times article; Ireland faced a painful choice between imposing a resolution on banks that were too big to save or becoming insolvent, and, for whatever reason, chose the latter. Sovereign nations get to make policy choices, and we are no longer a sovereign nation in any meaningful sense of that term. From here on, for better or worse, we can only rely on the kindness of strangers.

by V for vendetta Sun Apr 10, 2011 01:09

"Ireland faced a painful choice between imposing a resolution on banks that were too big to save or becoming insolvent, and, for whatever reason, chose the latter."

Ireland did not choose the latter. A few dodgy politicians in league with the banks did.

I suspect there is a numbered bank account in switzerland which had a sizeable chunk of money transferred to it that night. I can think of no other rational explanation for what happened. But we'll never know for sure.

However what we DID do was roll over and vote in another centre right wing government in league with business interests with an agenda of privatisation. THAT was our own doing. And no doubt that we will pay dearly for that stupidity.

How did the Icelanders vote? It would be good to see some nation standing up to the banksters, since we were too cowardly to.

by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite party Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:28

..that the banks could go screw themselves, instead of the icelanders.

We got no choice. An unmandated minority government under an appointed FF T-shirt ran the ball through a compliant opposition and stitched us up when any decent opposition would have left the Dail and demanded an election to legalise a budget dictated by Goldman-Sachs/Rotschilds et al.

We'll see how long it takes before the loansharks return to what is now a healthier icelandic economy because they showed some spine. They'll probably rap them on the knuckles(usual procedure, bad precedent etc.) before the ranks of greed cave in. Whats needed is co-ordination between the stung economies, but than seems unlikely. It certainly wont get driven from Inis Kissarseland.

by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite party Sun Apr 10, 2011 13:51

if this report is accurate, and it reads credible, the button is now in the twitchin fingers of the brass, at least for tactical as opposed to strategic nukes.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24202

by Des - None Mon Apr 11, 2011 13:55

Unlike the politicians in this country and their opposite numbers in Iceland, the Icelandic people showed that they had backbone and voted down the 'deal' in the recent referendum. Now the powers that be may be reduced to electing a new people.

by opus diablos - the regressive hypocrite party Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:52

them powers that be are taking it to court for their pound of flesh.Cant have precedents like that. Next they'll want to hang on to there own fishing grounds.

If ya cant do justice, dont forget yer legal veneer. Cos they're well fucking worth it(the lawyers fees). If that fails, NATO has snow-proof battallions.

by Deorai Wed Apr 13, 2011 09:39

The irish people are not masochistic nor infinitely gullible. they are suffering a group malaise well known and understood by the inbred criminal cleptocracy which has ruled ireland for centuries now, notwithstanding the laughable "rising", and the even more risable, false flag waving, porn and drug running, mi6 controlled "provos".

The condition is a combination of learned helplessness mixed with authoritarianism. Sufferers from these conditions cannot even envisage any action they could do to change the conditions they live in, nor can they in their wildest dreams imagine opposing the criminal mafia overlords. And so the people of ireland stand idly by while their country, once a bastion of freethinking and indiviuality and creativity, is looted and ransacked by the pirate gangsters masquerading as "experts", "organisers", "rulers" etc. Decades of helplessness to reason, justice, morality, objectivity insisted upon by egomaniacal irish teachers, including a large proportion of paedophilic "christian" brothers, priests, nuns and lay psychopaths etc, leads to children who have a choice to either become outlaws and be terrorised and humiliated and ostracised by the state skool indoctrination system/legal system until they are broken like a wild horse, or to become obedient mindless robots incapable of any objective empirical thinking or any questioning of any authority figures presented to them as such by the criminal oligarchical hierarchy, and their eunoch like media shills (gay byrne, plank kenny, marian finucane, talentless tubridy et al). The remonstrations and hand wringing of shills like Fintan o toole, and all the other ones who cry "greed" as the cause of the irish woes, only serve to reinforce the mass psychosis of this learned helplessness and authoritarianism. "Oh the poor irish were stupid bog trotting greed mongers unable to make economic decisions and now need they IMF to slap their wrists and take their post office book from them". Horse shit of course. This is just media spin doctoring to avoid the truth - that the mafia is looting ireland, just as it has always done, just as it did during the famine when the potato crop failed and they took all the food from the emerald isle while the people starved or boarded the coffin ships.

The opposite to religiously and hierarchy indoctrinated children growing up to be mindless, black poison swilling, immorality accepting robots are the law loving and moral people of iceland who simply say - "we will not pay for the crimes of the mafia banksters". Iceland, like ireland, once had a completely free country with a free market legal system depending not on bogus, phoney, written statutes, but on human conscience which is the highest law of all and the foundation for the concept of legality, and society. The difference of course is that iceland did not allow its country to be over run by dress wearing, child raping, cult members of the roman order, and all its myriad legion of secretive spin off cults. And thus the people of Iceland still know the difference between wrong and right and moral and immoral, regardless of what europe, some politician or the local parish priest says. Unfortunately the Irish have lost their concept of reality and objectivity and now "legal", "moral" "right" and "wrong" are not ideas which people think about and reason for themselves, these terms are now defined for the irish people dogmatically by their perceived "betters", the aforementioned politicians, priests, plummy accented inbred elitests, etc.

The only hope is a new generation of question asking, truth seeking, confident and moral children, who will grow up not scared to challenge the disgusting hierarchy and more importantly not afraid to rock the boat in the short term to produce a long term benefit to all, as opposed to my generation and the generations previous who would lay down their lives rather then speak out of turn or dare voice an opinion contrary to the media created spin doctored hierarchical belief systems manifested and insisted upon by all irish institutions.

When i left Dublin airport 5.5 years ago i knew i would not return for at least a decade, now i dont think i will ever see my homeland again. I cant bear to see what has become of the once proud, free and individual celts.

Bron is mo chroi...

by V for vendetta Thu Apr 14, 2011 23:00

Back to the topic

PJ Staunton says he will need 25 million euro in extra garda wages to police the visit of Obama and the queen. Thats without wining and dining them

25 MILLION EURO of poor hard working joe's money in a recession FFS.

for a cynical self serving electoral exercise and a self important old lady mumbling and waving her hand a bit.

Yet we cut special needs assistants

This country has no sense of whats really important and has no backbone anymore.