Israeli spy tech firm exploited vulnerability on ALL IPHONE devices to implant ‘Pegasus’ malware 01:04 Sep 14 0 comments FDA document admits “covid” PCR test was developed without isolated covid samples 01:37 Aug 28 0 comments Zoom's end-to-end encryption isn't actually end-to-end at all. Good thing the PM isn't using it for ... 13:59 May 10 1 comments 1,000 years of climate data confirms Australia's warming 20:17 May 20 41 comments Internet Freedom Fighters Build a Shadow Web 17:44 Feb 25 5 comments more >>Blog Feeds
Public InquiryInterested in maladministration. Estd. 2005RTEs Sarah McInerney ? Fianna Fail?supporter? Anthony Joe Duffy is dishonest and untrustworthy Anthony Robert Watt complaint: Time for decision by SIPO Anthony RTE in breach of its own editorial principles Anthony Waiting for SIPO Anthony
Human Rights in IrelandPromoting Human Rights in Ireland
Lockdown Skeptics
Staff at ?100 Million Alan Turing Institute Attack ?Chaotic? Management Amid Diversity Row Sun Dec 22, 2024 19:00 | Richard Eldred
?Our Irish Leaders Have Contributed to Hatred Against Jews? Sun Dec 22, 2024 17:00 | Richard Eldred
?Grocery Tax? to Hike Britons? Shopping Bills by ?56 in Labour Net Zero ?Inflation Boost? Sun Dec 22, 2024 15:00 | Richard Eldred
Furious German Protesters Demand Mass Deportations Following Christmas Market Attack by Saudi Doctor... Sun Dec 22, 2024 13:00 | Richard Eldred
NHS Faces High Court Legal Fight Over Cross-Sex Hormones Prescribed to Boy Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:00 | Richard Eldred
Voltaire NetworkVoltaire, international editionVoltaire, International Newsletter N?113 Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:42 | en Pentagon could create a second Kurdish state Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:31 | en How Washington and Ankara Changed the Regime in Damascus , by Thierry Meyssan Tue Dec 17, 2024 06:58 | en Statement by President Bashar al-Assad on the Circumstances Leading to his Depar... Mon Dec 16, 2024 13:26 | en Voltaire, International Newsletter N?112 Fri Dec 13, 2024 15:34 | en |
Apache helicopters for Libya
international |
sci-tech |
other press
Friday May 27, 2011 14:03 by Lofty
British prime minister David Cameron gave authorisation yesterday for Apache attack helicopters to start flying into Libya. It is expected that the helicopters will be deployed within 24 hours. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindi....html |
View Comments Titles Only
save preference
Comments (9 of 9)
Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9The capacity Apache helicopters have for killing can be seen in footage obtained by Bradley Manning in 2007 showing the crew of an Apache killing 12 civilians in Baghdad .
See this link and comments:
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/04/448719.html?c=on.
Google has deliberately put the original "collateral murder" link behind a sign in procedure to reduce hits
Instead, here's an al jazeera commentary which contains most of the footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zok8yMxXEwk
Also has julian assange commenting. worth a watch
You're right of course, those 30mm cannons are evil and very destructive weapons
It was announced earlier today that the Royal Air Force operating in Libya is to get 2,000lb Enhanced Paveway III bombs which are capable of penetrating the roofs of reinforced buildings. The short press release said that the bombs are prepared to be deployed "within hours". The MOD did not disclose whether depleted uranium was used in the manufacture of the bombs, but it seems likely. Conn Hallinan , a columnist with Foreign Policy in Focus , told RT earlier this month that , after examining the impact wounds left on tanks in Libya, he is "almost certain" that depleted uranium is already being being utilized in Libya.
The British MoD said the bombs “would help to protect civilians from being targeted by Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's regime”.
Gotta keep the morale up..
EUseful US/EU-phemisms
“British and French assault helicopters began operations over key Libyan cities on Saturday, marking a significant escalation of NATO’s war of aggression in the North African state.”
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/jun2011/liby-j06.shtml
According to wikipedia ,the Westland Apache attack helicopter used by British forces have been modified to carry up to 76 CRV7 rockets:
“The CRV7 is a controversial weapon as it has been classified as a cluster bomb; it is alleged that a single Apache could deliver as many as 684 bomblets in one attack. In May 2008, several senior officers, such as General David Ramsbotham spoke out against British plans to keep the weapon.[28][29] In the same month, Britain, as one of the 111 participating nations, agreed to ban cluster bombs on humanitarian grounds.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_Apache
I was in favour of offering some protection for the inhabitants of Bhenghazi from gadaffi's aircraft etc. but this has gone way too far. As usual, those involved just used a humanitarian mission to further their imperial / corporate agendas. This is yet another illegal war.
..caught on the instamatic..
..of the crew fitting some fresh democracy to our state-of-the-art delivery system
The title of the thread was the Apache helicopter.
Fearsome machines really do win wars.
The English used the Welsh Longbow to fling millions of arrows over the French army in the "100 Years War."
The French army was wiped out.
Lets divert altogether into Apache Wars.
The issue becomes the ethics of might over right. Where 'right' requires some analysis of the ethics of the matter, something that seems to escape your flexible stance. The issue can be interpreted as the hardware, or the human responsibility for the use of such.
Yours seems to be a position of indifference to ethics, and a childish fixation on the war-toys, rather than the consequences of this imperial aggression under the false flag of 'democracy and the protection of civilians', by regimes with a history of indiscriminate militarist brutality against civilian populations, and in a climate of increasing escalation under pretenses to moral and ethical superiority, even as debate is crushed by oscurantist propaganda and diversionary tactics such as you appear to be attempting to insinuate.
I suggest you're interests might be better served on one of Jane's weapons sites, where these toys are the wet-dreams of the underdeveloped and immature.
Am I over-assuming?Or do you believe the only issue of interest in discussion of the European wars against the native Americans, and other indiginous civilisation, is the calibre of the rifle, the throw-weight of delivery systems, and the kill-rate of the ordnance?
I remain, open to correction.